"In some of the new letters, ATF has begun listing the following “objective design features” when making its evaluations:
Incorporation of rifle sights;
Utilization of "rifle caliber ammunition" (both 5.56mm and 7.62mm have been considered as such);
Incorporation of “rifle-length barrel;”1
The “weapon’s heavy weight;”
Ability to accept magazines that range in capacity from 20 rounds to 100 rounds, “which will contribute to the overall weight of the firearm”; and
Overall length of the weapon which “creates a front-heavy imbalance when held in one hand.”
... Under ATF’s new interpretation of the handgun definition, millions of AR-15 style pistols could be considered “too large, or too heavy” to fall within ATF’s new interpretation, thereby making them unregistered NFA weapons, and subjecting manufacturers and gun owners to criminal prosecution."
My favorite way to troll chuds is asking them what Trump has done for them on guns. They had the White House, Congress, and SCOTUS. Where's that NFA repeal? Where are your suppressors at?
Suppressors are galling to me that they're banned. People think they make your gunshot actually silent, and it's 100% Hollywood's fault.
Suppressors aren't banned, at least not at the federal level. You can buy as many as you like as long as you get a tax stamp with each one, which is $200 and ~6 months waiting on paperwork to come back. Inconvenient? Absolutely. Banned? No.
I shoulda been specific. I live in California, where they are illegal, but in 42 states they are not.
I can almost sense we're going to have a new ATF/FBI incident in the next 4 years similar to Ruby Ridge or Waco. Biden's gun control platform is pretty extreme and it looks like Trump's admin also wants to quietly push something similar.
If it’s on Biden then it’s going to get real spooky real fast (like, David Koresh believed that it was the end of days and the armies of the antichrist were upon him and his followers, and that’s BEFORE the internet existed to radicalize potentially millions of people). If it’s on Trump it will get spun into either: it was a dangerous cult that needed to be destroyed or they were actually “ANTIFA” “communists” “BLM” who also needed to be destroyed. Republicans are really good at throwing their own under the bus when it’s beneficial to their narrative and power. That’s why I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw minor social reforms in a second trump presidency just to maintain power and be a palette cleanser/distraction.
lol can this government fuck off
like they knowingly create "crime" exactly like this where nothing is wrong then the ATF or whoever catch feelings and fuck tons of people over
which they use to scare the public into going BLACK RIFLE BAD EXTENDED CLIPAZINES SCURY SO MUCH CRIME
like i just got a piece and i swear if they make it illegal im going to be fucking PISSED im not trying to deal with their brand of fuckery anytime soon
also if they get rid of private sales also quick path to super pissed
also, can we talk about how they literally completely decimate all the constitutional rights and gatekeep / move the goalpost anytime it isnt some super chud that is into guns? fuck me
oh yeah no california is super bad with that
i legitimately feel bad for people there, same with new york and a few other places
lol bullet buttons
i remember when i saw those when they first happened and im just as confused as what it was even supposed to do for crime prevention
like ok
theres crime
lets make everyone who obeys laws only have 10 rounds and a weird button that keeps a rifle or whatever from working right
like ok cool handguns are banned and etc because it works so well that theres 0 illegal / "dangerous" guns now?
sometime, actually not going to lie most of the time, completely hate this country
i want my guns like some of my comrades
nimby as fuck
but no seriously this shit is dumb its all weaponized against the public
ok so nimby = non binary
its a pretty small makeup of the population so i can get how you arent aware lmao but yeah
i dont think (at least with labels being used to fuck with our supposedly non tamperable 2nd am) right now i can get with binary labels for guns
im somewhat inbetween calling all guns toast or straps
like all i see in that comment is a lot of burners / toast / straps / poles
because with the labels they are using they are with the then labeled things (which millions of people overnight are felons at this point, keep in mind this is because of these labels)
also, definitely not a liberal thing the second amendment here, and also if "duh" then the second amendment which says it should not be imposed on in ANY way is being imposed on with these things, and has already by things like this
so you take a country foaming at the mouth for federal violence / etc and it sets a bad precident, not even just that though people are so uneducated about them here en mass that they get scared when something "looks like a assault rifle" even though all they did was use polymer furniture on a SKS (super old semi auto, border line hunting rifle)
i could go on but eh, its super late here but see the problem?
also sbrs here are super stupid to deal with (tax stamp, cash expenses, 1yr waiting period most of the time, etc etc) so the pistol classification was cool for getting something this style, also this government goes DUMB with fucking with bureaucratic nightmarish systems so theres that too, not even mentioning this has been regular for years and years all to turn around and be like
meh, fuck all of you
and if you look at the system they are using to judge these things BOI
its so dumb, like go take a look, all to create felons instantly for over 3+ million people over nothing (10 years federal prison NOT a jail ((big difference))
guns are and have been a majority conservative thing in america
im not sure what liberal definition you are referring to but op in america at least what we have here is the other of the two parties (libs) that is very for gun control / policies against those rights
thats why you see so much lib hate here because theres the chud conservatives (ew), libs (ew), and the left (us)
also the founding fathers owned slaves so at this point as leftists we have a love / hate relationship with them and were just trying not to lose the rights we have right now, and if that means a "rifle" that is technically, or at least was, a pistol, you cant hate on the classification as it technically is on some level true and was legal
not sure why youre so gassed but tbh ive never actually seen you around im sorry?
either way lol republicans are liberals too? im sorry again but i know you arent from the us but you really have 0 idea how that is so contradictory its pretty good lmao (us based, modern, culturalized context)
own the libs? no?
never seen how conservatives in the us hate liberals with everything, including literally stuffing butt plugs in themselves to "own the libs" on camera? still no?
lmao
either way sure its all opinion and whatever but if you go past that for a minute you know?
either way lmao im out but that was pretty funny not going to lie
Lmao how did you end up on this site and not know what liberalism even is? Conservatives and liberals are the same thing when your country was founded as a liberal state.
If they go through with this, it's going to be a shitshow. These are extremely popular, just about every "gun enthusiast" guy owns one of these. Depending on how you count, these are probably the most common "pistols" in the country, no joke.
Counterpoint: it's going to be cops who have to get in the face of very angry gun owners.
