It was all about how special and honorable the media was and then donald trump showed up and called them all losers, revealing that nobody really cared about them

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The only thing I remember from that show was the clip of "America is not the greatest country in the world anymore" that people used to repost all the damn time on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit.... You could not escape that clip. I didn't even know what the show was, but seen that clip everywhere.

      • captchaintherye [any]
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        4 years ago

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WxdaU9AsnU

        You're gonna watch it, buddy, and you're gonna hate yourself after, just like the rest of us

        • charles_xcx [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          lol you'll have to track me down and force my eyes open for me to watch that!

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Don't go searching for it. It will give you a headache just seeing it once.

    • captchaintherye [any]
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      4 years ago

      What I never understood about that clip, is that, even though I agree it's insufferable garbage, it seems like something that would normally be anathema to libs. Hillary Clinton ran on "America is Already Great" as like a lame-ass F.U. to MAGA. Biden is pretty much doing the same thing (everything about America is great except the things Trump fucked up).

      How were libs then suddenly on board with "yeaaaah, America kind of fucking sucks at everything"?

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It was more of a product of the disappointment in the middle of Obama's first term.

        When that show came out, the Ron Paul craze was in full swing (there is a line somewhere in the show of a character just shitting all over people who were into Ron Paul's movement) and it was also around the growth of the Tea Party. Occupy Wall Street also happened around this time too and ties into it. There was some serious anti-government sentiment growing in the US culturally at the time and it forced libs to admit that America really wasn't all that great anymore, and who did they blame for it? Millenials for turning to the Occupy movement and being angry at the status quo.

        Obama's first two years were wasted on him bailing out Wall St, banks and kicking off the housing crisis in the midst of the recession. The Dems wasted all their time reaching across the aisles with the GOP who flat out bullied them and this set the stage for the Tea Party's huge wins in 2010 midterms.

        It's forgotten in time now, but Obama's first term was not really all that great as he is mythologized today (his entire presidency sucked, but his first term was different from the second for these reasons). His 2008 campaign was centered around this slogan of "yes we can" and you had the HOPE and CHANGE posters. The first thing he did was turn his back on the progressive grassroots campaigners that got him there to begin with and the disappointment was felt pretty early on when he bailed out Wall St and basically became the banks' repo man when the housing crisis kicked off.

        In that famous clip from the show, the guy giving the speech about how America isn't great anymore, words it around how the current young generation is some how at fault, and there was another clip of him going off ranting about millenials. Conservatives took this torch later on after Trump was elected, but it was liberals banging the drum in 2009-2012 about how young people were lazy and were more concerned about protesting than actually getting jobs and doing something with their lives. This whole deal with liberals frowning and mocking protesters goes back to the Obama years, they didn't start plucking their nose at protesters recently.

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    If the ideas of The Newsroom were even mildly accurate, then Trump attacking the media would be a death sentence, and Rachel Maddow would have stopped him with a powerful speech. But no, the words "fake news" were enough to render them useless

    • Octopustober [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I think the reason that "fake news" was effective had to do a lot with the decades of shitty news reporting causing people to lose trust in the media. The Iraq War would be our big moment where we slowly lost trust in the media but there were a lot of others that eroded that trust as well.

      If this were a different era, where people actually trusted their local news anchor, I think Trump would have been destroyed by the media.

      • captchaintherye [any]
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        4 years ago

        You can say the same for the Dems though. If Edward R. Murrow were around, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and other chum would never have been able to float out of the Senate and gain national prominence. They did it by being "kinder" shitty Republicans.

  • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I'd love to see a class breakdown for people who work in the media. It's all rich kids with easy ass jobs. Of course we hate them.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    My least favorite thing about the Newsroom is that there is a pretty good Canadian show from the 90s called the Newsroom as well, and now it's impossible to search for online.

    The Canadian the Newsroom is like a The Office/ curb your enthusiasm type humor, only it predated both of them. Anyway, cool.

    • grillpilled [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The Canadian "The Newsroom" was from the 2000s, but looked like it was from the 90s because of Canadian production values. It's one of the best shows of all time. Your description is right on.

      • Lrak [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It first aired in 1996 and was picked up Aufwind in the 2000s.

          • Lrak [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            No worries. Just saw it while I added it to my imdb watchlist (:

  • Myaccountgothacked [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    It was my favorite show when it first came out. I should do a hatewatch now just to rid my self of some of the liberalism still kicking around in there.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I watched it and West Wing when I was but a budding 18 year old liberal because I thought that's what you were supposed to do. Never got past season one of either and now I'm a 23 year old communist.

            • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              The Abbie Hoffman one? From what I've heard (haven't seen), it's a fine movie in terms of plot/acting/writing/etc, but it completely sucks in how it lines up with history (ie making Hoffman et al look like liberals, not putting the coolest parts of the trial in, etc). You should check out Dave Anthony's great rant about it starting at 1:38:25 here

  • captchaintherye [any]
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    4 years ago

    Not only that, but the dumb motherfuckers helped Trump get elected, by:

    1. giving Trump free airtime for ratings;

    2. focusing their efforts and resources on sinking Bernie Sanders, who would have easily destroyed Trump, in the service of helping the pinhead unelectable candidate who inserted herself as the last line of defense against Trump, then stepped on a series of rakes, set off a sprinkler system, and fell in a manure pit.

  • Tittyskittles [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I think it might be this show more than anything else that radicalized me and showed me how insufferable liberals are