TW: DCEU film mentioned
I walked out of Batman V Superman completely fucking wrecked. I don't think it's awful, but I didn't want to watch any more movies after that. It took about 4 or 5 days for me to try to watch something else. It sounds like I'm being an exaggerative comic book media obsessed psycho- I guess I am. I wanted to enjoy it, I occasionally did, but mostly I felt completely deflated, struggling to understand what kind of plot ZS & co were presenting- and which side of the political spectrum the film was on (it explicitly was trying- I'm not reading too much into it). The music was overwhelmingly pulsating and while I love Hans Zimmer (he's up there with Williams for me) it just was unrelenting. The visuals were occasionally beautiful and ZS uses CGI as a genuine art form, but the screen is smeared with muddy dark brown template making me struggle to focus on the screen. At its core- it's meant to be a comic book film for children. What a depressing feeling to be a parent if you had to watch the film with your kid who was genuinely excited for these silly characters to be onscreen together.
Can anyone articulate why it was that much of an atrocity? You watch some scenes on youtube and it's decent-ish, but I don't think I could put myself through that again.
It's a poorly edited, poorly characterised, and poorly themed movie about nothing.
Your brain spends time thinking about how one scene would logically connect to the other but they don't.
The movie spends several scenes setting up the ideological differences between Batman and Superman. You see, Batman uses violence to stop crime and so does Superman... Oh. Well, Batman is way too violent for Superman because, unlike Batman, Superman would never... smash a human being through several brick walls at Mach 2, as seen right at the beginning of the movie.
The movie is constantly fighting itself, using prior comic book knowledge to set up an ideological contrast while also completely changing these established characters for the sake of the film.
Then, even if the ideological stuff did work it doesn't even pay off because the only reason Superman fights Batman is because Lex Luthor says that he'll kill his mother if he doesn't.
The fight then stops because they both have a mother named Martha. Nerds will tell me that it's actually Batman realising he's basically become just as bad as the person who killed his parents which would work if he didn't go straight back to murdering people in the next scene. Batman also already knew about his human parents so that angle doesn't work either. Sorry losers, the fight stopped cos their mums got the same names.
Then they fight a giant monster and Wonder Woman is there and Superman dies for no reason, the end.
Shocking that the man who made Man of Steel would be capable of creating something that's a thematic and structural mess. 🤔
That movie about the wormholes, I can’t even remember its fucking name, was a huge disappointment. It was just long, boring, and nonsensical. Why are you writing weird code to Murph from the future? Just write in plain fucking English! Why are we spending the first 40 minutes of this fucking shit learning about the dust bowl and whining about pop corn? Let’s get your fucking characters into space! Jesus!
I like the director’s other work despite his repugnant politics but jesus that movie sucked. I also love and live SF and wanted to love that movie.
It was way too dreamlike and despite some realism like the planetology shit was really weird. I'm still 50/50 about it though. I did enjoy it showing how boring a post-apocolyptic climate war ravaged U.S. would actually be.
I’m not much of a movie watcher, I’ll sit down for maybe 2 or 3 movies a year. But if I can talk about a tv show that left me exhausted, it would be American Horror Story. I dated a girl who was obsessed with AHS, she had like the first four seasons on DVD and would rewatch it several times a year. She asked if I wanted to watch it with her, so we watched the first season together.
Holy shit, AHS is HOT GARBAGE. The plot is super predictable and uninteresting, the writing doesn’t sound like how people actually talk, and it just has a pretentious overall feeling, like it’s supposed to be super deep and scary. Then they sprinkle in sex as much as they can, to give the show a sexy veneer for whatever reason. By the time we got to the last episode of season one, I was so glad for it to be over.
She asked if I wanted to watch the next season and I hastily declined, but I would peek in sometimes to see if it was still awful, and it was.
I'm so over sexual abuse being portrayed explicitly in art. I'm not saying sexual abuse shouldn't be covered in media- but perhaps showing how an environment could lead to such an intensely violent act- mostly committed by people known to the victim- is more productive than showing something horrific that's unfortunately with true crime obsessions etc is actually weirdly old hat now. Also, from a horror perspective, implication is far worse than showing something in detail.
I had the same experience (watching season 1 with a girl) and its extremely funny in a "this is terrible" way. The husband dad is a sex addict psychologist, and he's terrible at his job. Everyone sucks, everyone is acted terribly, it has zero pace at all, the house is haunted in something like 12 different ways.
There's been three times while watching a movie at a theater where the thought of killing myself, not out of depression but just as a way of not having to watch the fucking movie anymore, crossed my mind: Fast Five, Avengers Infinity War, and Last Christmas. Of them, I get who two of the three are for. I don't get Last Christmas in the slightest. It's not a romantic comedy even though it advertises itself as such, both because it isn't funny but also because it's not even a romance story. It's not interesting enough to be a good drama. It's honest to god probably the worst movie I've seen in that it's absolutely the most boring. Like I didn't even want a good movie, I just wanted to shut my brain off and just get nice christmas feels. Instead I got a movie that didn't need a twist, but decides to do a twist anyways. And that twist is that the line "Last Christmas I gave you my heart" is taken literally and the boyfriend isn't a living person but a dead person whose heart the protagonist received in a heart transplant.
hahha bruh, kinda related- Love Actually has apparently given people that same feeling. At least the anthology nature of Love Actually allows me to prefer certain stories, but that sucks that Last Christmas made you feel that way. I would've thought the uber attractive stars were enough to push it over the line.
I don't think any film has ever got Batman quite right in comparison to the comics. They're all okay version of the character to some extent but I don't think we're yet to have or will have soon a definitive movie version of him.
I remember watching Zero Dark Thirty and being drained by how much pro-torture, neo-con consent it manufactures
I was only a 17-18 Australian when I saw the movie. I didn't have much context, but from memory the torture doesn't lead anywhere productive? They get their intel RE Osama from some random unrelated to the torture. I'd like to hear why it was pro torture. I mean the film didn't emphasise how little the torture is unethical and pointless, but it wasn't portraying it as productive (from memory at least, I haven't seen it since)
It was mostly the arc of Jessica Chastain's character initially being disgusted by torture but then coming round to it after her friend died that rubbed me the wrong way, plus as far as I remember it portrayed the info that led to Bin Laden's assassination as coming from torture and not, y'know, Pakistani intelligence giving him up on a plate
Torture is good sometimes is terrifyingly present in modern war/action films. So garbage
Batman V Superman is fucking hilarious. The fact that they thought that movie was good and worth showing to anyone gave me energy.
