That's my gut feeling.

I don't think it's at all impossible for Biden to win, but that's my gut feeling.

To be more specific: I think the "Red Mirage" scenario will happen. Trump will have a lead on election night and he and the Republicans will pull some fuckery to stop mail-ins from being counted in the right places.

If it gets to the Supreme Court, either Biden and the Dems will pull a Gore and surrender the election without a fight, or the Court will rule in his favor and hand him victory.

History will repeat itself.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      This is the best comment I've read on here all weekend.

  • kijib [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    no we're just going to repeat Obama's first term but worse, then Trump 2.0 wins

  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    On the other hand, Trump said he'd purge the CIA if he is reelected so you never know

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        What isn't the CIA pulling a JFK or Trump purging the CIA? Because one is a joke the other is real

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            Trump might actually try to purge the CIA. They fundamentally represent financial capital while Trump represents industrial capital, and those two factions are vying for power.

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    Biden will win, all the libs will rejoice and stop protesting, vaccines will be distributed and everything will go back to normal.

    It's a pessimistic view, but it's my gut feeling.

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      Everything will go back to normal.

      Uh, sorry to inform you that the world has a slight case of being completely fucked. A good chunk of the population will not get vaxxed, coronavirus will come back every year now, the economy is not going to recover from this in less than 10 fucking years (if it ever recovers, that is), oh and the environment is a bit dying under our eyes too.

      • ArmedHostage [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        We still havent really recovered from 2008. We've been a terminal decline for over 10 years and in a permanent crisis of the rate of profit. Only two ways out: dictatorship of the proletariate or the common ruin of the contending classes.

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        Oh yeah it’s doomer time 😎😎

        • Jorick [he/him]
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          Not really. That's a realistic approach to things. Being a doomer in this case would mean giving up on any kind of hope, all the while capitalism is is its final stages. Not doomer shaming those who think it's too late or anything, but there's still some hope for another world after capitalism.

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      Yeah, that's too cynical. If that's true, it gives credence to the idea that the pandemic was an op.

  • Spike [none/use name]
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    Biden only needs to flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to win. He doesn't even need Florida or Texas. Unless something really unexpected is happening in Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania compared to the polling (Biden is up 5+ in all three states), then its a Biden win. The only thing that's making me think there's a chance it might not be a Biden win is that Ohio has been won by the president since JFK, and there's a good chance Trump might win Ohio.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    I'm skeptical that Trump will lead on election night though, so this kind of falls apart with that.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      He will still say it was rigged. There are zero scenarios where Trump admits he lost fair and square.

        • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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          I guess it depends. The military said they wouldn't intervene in the event of a disputed election so maybe he will just refuse to leave and enough cops and DHS feds will go along with it. I honestly have no fucking idea what he will do. I usually feel like I'm pretty good at making predictions but homie is erratic and everything is wild rn.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            DHS feds are the biggest threat for sure if he tries to straight up not leave, they will do literally anything he says, but I doubt he has the secret service's loyalty to make that happen.

            • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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              I've read that he actually did slowly purge leadership in the SS. I don't remember the specifics though.

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                If he did then that's risky business, though I have no idea if the president even has direct authority over them.

                • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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                  I mean it doesn't really matter what the law says, as long as the people are loyal to him they can always break the law. I'm not saying he will definitely do that but that's how you do a coup.

                  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    Oh yeah, definitely. I'm just skeptical that he has any serious loyalty beyond DHS people, and they alone aren't enough to do a coup. He's not exactly a guy who inspires loyalty in government bureaucrats (who mostly pull the strings on armed goons).

                    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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                      It's a weird situation because he commands extreme loyalty from a very large group of armed goons that he doesn't actually directly control, cops. I'm not really sure if he can pull it off but at the same time I'm not sure anyone can stop him.

    • budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Trump's predicted, even now, to have more support with in-person election day voters than with mail-ins, that's where that come from.

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        This logic only applies to mail-in ballots that arrive after election day, though. The vast majority of early voting was in-person or mail-in well before election day, so it will get counted along with day-of in person votes just the same.

        • budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
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          It should also be noted however that for the past several months Trump and the Republicans have done their damnedest to fuck with the entire mail-in system and make it as broken and inefficient as possible.

          We'll find out soon enough whether or not they did enough damage to make up the difference.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            What they fucked with was the USPS, not the way mail-in votes are counted (generally, they did get a few court cases here and there to limit mail-in counting). And I don't have numbers for this, but I'm pretty confident most of those mail-in votes have already arrived, and there are way more in-person early votes than mail-in.

    • PlantsRcool [any]
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      4 years ago

      I think you might be right, maybe, for a few reasons. Some states, like florida, have to have all votes counted on election day so theirs won't be late. Arizona is allowed to count theirs early and most their mail ins are already counted.

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Either way, he won't give up without throwing a pissy fit to rally his cult though.