• ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Idk about y’all, but I like it when the fascists are stupid enough to out themselves to the world.

    My thoughts exactly - I want my enemies to have a uniform to be pointed, named and shamed at.

    remember in world war 2 when the Allies defeated the nazis by naming and shaming them?

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I love how everyone's like "I like knowing who the nazis are!" and absolutely zero ideas on what to do about them

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        • quarrk [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          This got me thinking. The common trope in Hollywood movies and shows is that, once the good guy wins, he usually shows mercy to the villain, and the villain sees the error of their ways and everyone gets along, or at least the conflict is resolved. I don’t hate this message of grace in principle. However, history has shown that this kind of behavior is never rewarded. If the loser is given an opportunity for an unlikely comeback, they will take it. Maybe this is part of why these neolibs don’t know what to do once they’ve caught a villain? It’s like thinking death always looks like someone croaking out epic final words before literal X’s replace their eyes, or that the entirety of sex is just when you kiss your crush and the studio audience goes “ooOOOOOoooo”

          Harry Potter is a psyop

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      • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]
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        1 year ago

        voooooooote them out! whats that? Hitler won with 33% of the votes bc liberals enabled the fascists and would rather form a coalition w them than with the communists? nah, hitler won bc the communists went to far actually and were trying to restrict freeze-peach very-intelligent

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      isnt the point of outlawing it that now you can do something about fascists outing themselves to the world? ffs liberals are so spineless

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Probably very hard to get a good hitler-detector reading in Aus because of the high level of ambient Hitler Particles.

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    There is hardly anything liberal about tolerating explicitly anti-liberal/anti-democratic forces.

    That's... the most liberal thing imaginable.

    heartbreaking

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I think the most liberal thing imaginable is a universalisation of property rights (of a particular cultural pedigree) and a fetishisation of markets (unless inconvenient to those with lots of property).

      • YouKnowIt [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        You forgot about the key factors of claiming credit for any social progress accomplished by socialists and acting really smug about it

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    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      unless they're trying to incite imminent unlawful acts

      They would have absolutely zero disagreement with a Nazi putting minorities in death camps so long as it's the law of the land.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I frankly don't give a shit what they "call for" unless they're trying to incite imminent unlawful acts.

      Damn that's what we've been missing. Instead of saying "Shoot the landlords (in minecraft)" we should have been saying "shoot the landlords (at sometime in the non-imminent future)."

      • StalinwasaGryffindor [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        The thing about this that really upsets me is the BEING A NAZI is inherently calling for violence. Like, even by their own stupid qualifications this is breaking the rules

    • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      i truly could not give less of a shit about 'liberty' in the sense of political freedoms.

  • yuun@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    holy shit am I tired of 'free speech absolutists' showing up to defend Nazis and literally nobody else

    • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Turns out when you are a free speech absolutist who defends communists just as much you might just end up one yourself.

      Couldn't be me :^)

    • Lochat [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Neoliberals know they're next on the Nazi spectrum so it does make sense they'd be concerned once Nazis are targeted.

      I mean, statistically the closest thing you can get to sending people to labor camps based on race is doing it by the socioeconomic status you were born into, and that's their idea of utopia.

    • Moss [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      "First they came for the Nazis and locked up me and all my buddies"

    • mayo_cider [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      That's a lot shorter poem than the original, no extra steps between nazis and neoliberals

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  • D61 [any]
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    1 year ago

    billdawg

    "Damn man, we cant even say "hi" to our friends anymore?"

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    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      see nothing wrong with one quarter of a magic school being dedicated to magic nazis?

      What kind of school has a quarter of its faculty dedicated to teaching magic engineering?

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  • 0xACAB [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    i actually don't support these laws because they historically always just get used against the left and never against the right. fascism isn't defeated by the government banning it, it's defeated on the street. Also from a long time back, one of the proposed amendments to this bill was the following text (i dont know if it was in the final bill)

    all other extremist groups which seek to promote fascism, communism, anarchism, bigotry and violence in our community

    we also know that in places like germany where nazi symbols are banned they just invent new more obscure ones anyway

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      they don't need a legal mandate to oppress the left. blow up every nazi statue with public money.

      • 0xACAB [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Doesn't look too bad actually, specifically calling out a crossed out swastika as being allowed (afaik in Germany this example was used to disperse antifascist rallies)

        Either way though, the solution can only come from the working class.

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    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      brainworms

      blah blah blah It's fun to think about free speech from different perspectives.

      Still hasn't figured out it wasn't supposed to apply to him.

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