I love that every American election is decided by <50k people in Michigan who vote third party, it rules and is extremely democratic
Lmao it’s even more normal when you realize that just means you could guarantee the presidency if you promise to fix the fucking water and they still don’t do it.
It’s still hilarious how Michael Moore was begging the Biden campaign to do a quick stopover in MI to say they’ll fix the water. Guaranteed easy win that way, it would’ve taken 5 minutes. Joe is like “Nah, can’t do the bare minimum”
People who vote for Jo could just as easily have slept in on election day. Or they could have divvied up their votes evenly between D and R, resulting in a push.
The notion that 100% of any third party block is 2nd-choice-my-team is delusional. We played this game with Ralph Nader in 2000 (who pulled roughly evenly from D and R voters even within Florida) and with Jill Stein in 2016 (nevermind the Michigan/Pennsylvania top-line undercount, let's just blame the fucking Greens). And in Maine, to the point that they just implemented RCV to shut everyone the fuck up about spoilers.
The party loyalists just have to believe it is everyone's fault but their own when they're losing.
56k votes for Jo, 15k difference between D and R, means that a 63% 37% voting pattern would've made the difference in assumption of total transference. More likely is that a few people would've been non voters. If we add that to consideration the voting pattern would've to be something even more skewed, like 70% to 30%. That is not to be expected with the makeup of the voting population for the actual voting block (e.g. not the non-voting block).
More easily to win Michigan would've been driving out the vote in general and targeting non-voters. This wasn't done for reasons this board talked more often about. Though this election the voting participation was comparably high.
i know there were some people here asking if republicans voter shame libertarians for voting 3°party, its good to know the answer to that question is yes :sicko-yes:
probably its just like progressives with liberals " it will be harder to Push for Libertarian policies under a socialist state"
Conservatives are liberals. Market fetishism is a serious personality disorder that demands treatment.
Paleoconservatives are isolationist goldbugs with an evangelical streak.
Neoliberals are secular globalists who moonlight as credit expansionist piss pigs.
The alter of the Free Market hosts an assortment of denominations. It's like the Judea-Christian tag that somehow manages to put Seventh Day Adventists, Orthodox Jews, and Opus Dei in the same bucket.
The Republican party is a liberal/conservative party, but Trump is a national conservative which generally can no longer really be described as liberal. It's his relationship to the Republican party that results in liberal policies being implemented.
These results are 100 percent attributed to the door knocking operation Rashida did, against the wishes of the Biden campaign, and you cannot tell me otherwise.
Without her Trump would've won the state.
Correct. A lesson that will be forgotten in a week, a lesson none the less.
Comrade Paedophile Dodging Child Support Because It's Not Constitutional
Pedophile is our word u guys have nonce, stop appropriating burger culture :angery:
Whoa buddy, I'm also an illiterate drunken uncle who dresses up my fascism in the aesthetics of rugged individualism. My paedas in the suburban hood know me.
One hell of a feeling to have voted Green in the state that decided the election :amerikkka:
Considering the Libertarian party got so big cause of Ron Paul 2008/2012, how beautifully poetic of an ending is this for /pol/? The whole board started out as a Ron Paul containment board/project.
Another hilarious thing: in every state where Howie Hawkins and Glorida La Riva were on the ballot, there isn't a single state where giving all their votes to Biden would flip the results. In other words, even if you assume all Green/PSL votes are leftist dissent votes, you can't blame them for any of Biden's losses.
An interesting, related race to watch is Susan Collins in Maine. The "ranked choice" system means that they start off only reporting the first choice numbers. If the top candidate gets less than 50%, then and only then, do they eliminate the 3rd party candidates votes and move them to the first two. Currently, its 49.8%, 43.4% and 4.3%. The Independent, Lisa Savage, is progressive, and told her voters to make sure they have Sara Gideon as their 2nd choice. We might actually get to see this process take place, but its not looking good. Still cool that voting third party doesn't affect the election results negatively.
Can’t wait for the Republican version of The Comey Rule to come out in 2024 where Xi Jinping invites Biden to a zoom call with Jo Jorgensen and Robert Mueller
It wouldn't be republican if there wasn't some stupid dig at Hillary like getting Carol Baskins to play her.
Like libertarians support sending in literal death squads to kill activists that shoot people in a Zimmerman style self defense.
