Sad reality for so many people in America. This is the “normal” that people want to go back to?
Abolish fares, what the fuck are fares for anyways? This should all be sorted out by taxes if we're going to live under a system where we all make money and pay taxes.
Fares are nonsense, just an extra tax on the poor for doing the right thing and riding public transit.
I make more than average, fucking tax me already to pay for people to get to work who have to make decisions about feeding their family, Jesus fucking christ. Tax me extra and build more train lines motherfuckers and maybe I can get rid of my car.
I don't mind a property tax hike here in Toronto to have publicly funded transit
The MTA is the worst of both worlds: it's half funded by taxes and half funded by fares, ensuring that the system is perpetually bankrupt and also at the mercy of legislators that don't live anywhere near NYC and hate the city in ways only upstate New Yorkers could.
On a completely unrelated note, the MTA is just about bankrupt, the subways barely run half the time, and there's never time to do any maintenance :dumpster-fire:
Some ghoul is probably saying that it's time to privatize the subways
I was so mad when they started paying more for policing than they were recouping in fairs. It was literally just an exercise in punative paternalism
force motorists to pay fairs so they can upkeep all of their own godforsaken highways while building an dope ass train network
The downside to that is that it fucks over poor people who have to drive because low rent areas are often chronically under-served by public transport.
This is supposed to be the purpose of state highway tools and gas taxes.Sorry for the redundant response.
“Just donate,” says the ghoul libertarian/conservative
Wasn't a train fare increase the catalyst that kicked a lot of cool zone things off in Chile? Comrades should probably focus on these everyday costs in people's lives. For the people that need public transport it's the cost of trains and for the people that need vehicles it's the cost of gas. Both are transportation costs and an every cost people feel ever-consistently.
A chunk of rural America's support for imperialism is probably their transportation costs.
Wasn’t a train fare increase the catalyst that kicked a lot of cool zone things off in Chile
Yep, the equivalent of 4 cents. The was already terrible wealth inequality and those every day costs where taxing to a lot of the population, and both the increase in fare and the arrogant response from the goverment lead to the explosion
If I'm not mistaken it wasn't long after the movement exploded in Chile that there was some parallel spontaneous activity in NYC triggered by subway cops harassing and arresting Black commuters - including several Black teenagers just trying to go between school and home - for merely being suspected of fare evasion.
Sure, same thing in Brazil. The problem is that the right wing hijacked the demonstrations, they turned into the first fashy movement of the past ten years, and ended up eroding Dilma's popularity, priming her for the coup in 2016.
This is important. Here in Chile, all the revolt and riots started because of a 4 cent rise on the subway fare. People started organizing mass subway fare evasions, cops started to repress them violently and suddenly the whole country blew up, even in parts of the country where there is no subway at all.
American leftists should capitalize on this rage and not let it go away. It would be beautiful tbhSome Black protestors in NYC did capitalize on this in response to similar bullshit in NYC last year, but only briefly. This was before BLM took off again post-covid.
Both struggles had the common element of anger over rising subway fares and police violence.
There is no need for this divisive language. Now that we all won and Biden is finally president the fares will be raised in a much more competent and civil matter.
Are you still dissatisfied? Now is not the time. You are hurting Kamala's chances of re-election in 2024 with those radical demands. Do you want the orange Cheeto to come back?
Fuck, I hate that Trump's return is gonna be the bugbear used to shout down anyone suggesting a crumb of relief for the poor.
Tickets will now be printed on rainbow paper. Each ticket will have an inspirational quote on the back
The cost of each ticket is now $5
I once got a ticket for fair evasion on SFMuni. Never paid that shit, it’s been like 2 years and I just get periodic reminders that I owe them 😂
I can't imagine trying to survive on $9/hour in NYC, let alone while raising a child. Minimum wage should be $20 at least
illegalism holds the answers for us. Fuck walking three hours home hope the gates. Everybody needs to start doing it. Rob the stores. Don’t pay rent
But we need to raise fares to pay $20 million for the cops who will recover $2 in fare dodging. It's basic economics commie.
The class war is real. This is what 'normal' is to America. Kicking the poor and putting them down.
