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we also really want to create a worker-owned tech cooperative so some members of the team can do this full time
this sounds super cool I hope it works out for you all
I can't trust a mod team that doesn't upgrade to crack, smh my head
If you want me to use hella crack you'll have to upgrade your patreon sub. Crack aint cheap.
A mod told me that a transparency report was in the works. So far I don't see any reason to doubt they'll publish specifics. <3
Priority #1 is nuking all these spammers
on the bright side, the librapay and patreon all show what's getting contributed so there is some mediocre level of transparency already
But I mean where is the money going? I feel like we should know that before we donate. Not some unspecified time after, maybe.
My understanding is, right now, it’s going into Beatnik’s name.
He’s going to be using it to set up a worker co-op structure. That’ll involve, at the minimum, paying server costs, but ideally it’ll also be enough to pay wages, advertise Chapo, donate to specific funds, expanding the focus of the co-operative, etc.
Tbh, I’ve given away money for worse.
So as it stands right now it's just going to one person who's intentions we don't can't really know for sure with no way to verify what it will actually be put to?
I mean, he could have set this whole thing up as a grift to run off with a few hundred dollars, but it’s a pretty long game for not much reward.
It’s a fair bit of work to mod the CTH sub, and to then manage the launch this whole Lemmy project.
It’s not like the grift would last forever, either. We’re what, less than two weeks into the launch and we’re already seeing questions like this from the wider community? No way it’d get more than a grand or so before we saw an internal dev team split.
What we know of Beatnik is that he’s a PM in a tech company. That makes me think that a grand or so isn’t really all that important to him, at least not for the amount of effort it’d take here.
Personally, I’m happy to keep donating. I’ll take my cue from the dev team. If they’re comfortable trusting beatnik to follow through, I am too.
Pretty convinced at this point that this is a wrecker, not "from the wider community." Their first few comments were a lot of random quotes about communism that look like they were to farm enough upvotes to make this post.
Yeah pretty much. Again, if the lack of transparency bothers you, I think it's entirely reasonable to hold off on donating. Personally I'm not donating very much, so it's not a big concern for me.
I'm not sure if I like the framing of a lack of transparency as just a personal issue.
what? are you telling me to go somewhere else because I asked for transparency?
Well, I think they've got plenty to handle hosting for a little while at this point, so you can probably just hold off on donating until the report comes out.
I mean the site's what, a week or so old? There's a lot going on at the moment, so I don't think they're dragging their feet so much as they're just swamped right now.
Yeah I know the site's new but like i figure they would atleast have like a budget or something they could share for like how much servers cost, or like what proportion they might be giving to the devs that are working so hard on this.
I think you're just concern trolling to be honest. How can I know your intentions are genuine? I want to know before I commit to giving you upvotes you know.
Even if I was I don't think it's smart to put your money into a black box with no accountability. I'm not crazy for thinking that right?
when it's done. takes longer the more people spam names of neoliberal grifters.
I feel like there should have atleast been something rudimentary available from the start.
Donations will go towards active hosting costs and also building up a runway so we can afford to add better infra/stability. If the support is there, we also really want to create a worker-owned tech cooperative so some members of the team can do this full time.
From an announcment on Discord. More transparency is coming.
If you engage seriously with the idea that the mods are nefariously pocketing profit from this site, you're doing what the wreckers want.
I'm don't think it's far out not to want money going into a black box that we don't know where it's going.
The mods and admins have a whole lot on their plates right now. Just don't donate until they implement the transparency changes.
Our talented devs are currently working hard to harden our spam removal capabilities to make this platform more safe and hospitable for everyone. Consider donating to our liberapay so our team can continue to provide chapo.chat steadily with upgrades and new features.
I won't donate anything until I know the money is going where it's supposed to and I recommend everyone do the same.
I fully agree, and I'd imagine most do. I trust that the admin team will implement better transparency sooner rather than later. And based on OP's posting history, I'm leaning towards them being a wrecker.
They probably are. Don't take my post as wrekcer shit, please, I'm just trying to support transparency and honesty. It's not that I don't trust the mods, it's purely out of principle.
