• Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    "how many people died of starvation? probably none." -source: the depths of my own ass

    Edit: it just occurred to me, do these people not have a grasp on nutritional values? They think motherfuckers are out there eating belts and shoes and dying, but it's not starvation because there's leather in their stomach?

    • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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      4 years ago

      Pretty much. And when you really get down to it, no one dies of "starvation" per se but simply of whatever essential bodily process deteriorates the most severely due to lack of nutrition. Checkmate, communism.

    • Dyno [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This might be me talking out of my ass, but years ago, when I saw the chart comparing US and USSR food production over time, it occurred to me that, in old pictures, people always seem thin - not healthy thin, more like emaciated, holocaust survivor thin. Whereas the USSR achieved a nice little 3000 kcal plateau around 1940 and kept it there until the end, the US achieved food parity in the mid 70s - after which, production continued to rise, and correlates with when you anecdotally start to visibly see the emergence of obesity.

      It followed that people in the past were just malnourished, but it's never presented as such. It follows further that, in the course of pursuing profit, food companies overproduced compared to actual demand, and through various converging factors, coerced the public into eating more than necessary so that they could make that profit - resulting in obesity.

      • Kissmydadonthelips [any,undecided]
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        4 years ago

        Socialism is when I vote for the board of directors because the company gave me 5 good boy shares, yes I huff my own farts how did you know?

    • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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      4 years ago

      I've encountered this but with medical care. Unironic "well emergency rooms don't literally ask for a credit card before you receive care, so technically you can't really die of lack of medical care in the US."

  • BillyMays [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Capitalists acting as if the Great Depression didn’t happen and it wasn’t directly caused by capitalists being greedy fucks getting their kicks on stock speculation that overnight tanked the economy, not only causing widespread hunger, but also diseases to spread rampant.

        • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Or how the U.S. effectively removed agricultural production from the free market a century ago.

          Can you elaborate a bit? Or point me to a source?

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Here's a good starting point:

            The act was the first to make price support mandatory for corn, cotton, and wheat to help maintain a sufficient supply in low production periods along with marketing quotas to keep supply in line with market demand.

            There's massive government interference in agricultural markets because the free market flat-out doesn't work in that industry. Farmers plant in the spring but sell their crops in the fall, so in a free market they have to guess what the fall price of different crops will be and hope they get lucky. If they aren't lucky -- if you grow a bunch of corn but the price of corn bottoms out because everyone in your state grew a ton of corn, too -- you either make almost no profit, or you might even figure that the price is so low that harvesting isn't worth the cost.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Why do these losers feel like they have to defend capitalism when capitalism already has a multi-billion dollar propaganda apparatus

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    American and Soviet citizens eat about the same amount of food each day but the Soviet diet may be more nutritious.pdf

  • quartz242 [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Not to mention the genocide of first nations for muh manifest destiny.