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We're getting more and more evidence to support the theory that this virus didn't originate from a "wet market in China" and had been circulating in Europe for a while before being discovered by a superior communist healthcare system.
Multiple people have told me they thought they had it in December/January.
Yeah I've heard people here in the US who swear they had it fall of last year.
Wouldn’t doubt it. How would they have known? There was no test for it. And then immediately when it showed up it killed thousands of people in nursing homes. Seems sus
I had a really bad case of flu in january. Same with my parents
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i live in a east coast metropolitan city in the US: i remember being absurdly, ridiculously sick (pink eye, sinus problems, coughing, etc) early in January when I was supposed to be housesitting for a friend while they were traveling for a music fest in another east coast metropolitan city, and then later haring from people who went to this fest that people were getting absurdly ridiculously sick the whole weekend, which was attributed to a generic "fest plague".
I ended up getting diagnosed with pink eye and didn't think much of it, but in retrospect...
I had horrible dry cough and body pain for a couple days and then coughing for weeks.
But how did it not affect the health care system for so many months? Did the virus mutate into something more lethal in 2020? Does this mean its still mutating?
Those are all valid questions that would need to be examined, hence the reason for scientist to be hesitant to upend the entire timeline of events.
But how did it not affect the health care system for so many months?
People would just die i guess, and have it categorised as unknown pneumonia related death.
Did the virus mutate into something more lethal in 2020?
Entirely likely, we knew of 14 mutations back in may, some more lethal than others.
Does this mean its still mutating?
Yes, viruses are always mutating, it's not necessarily that dangerous as they usually become less dangerous over time, back in may the European variant was classified as more infectious than the one detected in China. The recent danish mink genocide was about this, fear that crossing the human to animal back to human threshold would create a new more lethal variant.
Some other evidence that points in the same direction, but burden of proof is high since it upends scientists entire timeline of events.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ
Nathan Rich also has a useful timeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5EXjFKE7U&vl=en
Out of sheer curiosity because I gotta deal with some of the worst libs on a more regular occasion than I'd like: Is there any good sources for this? Like, think of the kind of source that libs who uncritically take everything AP and Reuters says at face value, for instance. I'm super curious, especially because an acquaintance had what they think was Covid in January, before it was supposed to have hit where it did.
Edit: fuck me I'm dumb and can't read thread OPs
It's not hard and done quite yet. It might even be a few more years. Evidence still has to be collected and peer reviewed, and it could end up going nowhere. These are just early signs that another timeline is possible.
Edit: but yeah the OP should be enough for the time being
Can't let our western imperialist brand of racism go unserved for even a single article can we reuters.
Weirdly enough, in October 2019 I had a really intense sickness exactly like covid-19. I've never been that sick in my entire life. I was extremely tired for months after the fact. It didn't at all feel like a regular flu. I tested for all kinds of stuff after and everything came back negative. They never found wbat caused it.
PCRs of wastewater have put it around the world as early as March 2019 - https://www.darkdaily.com/studies-finding-remnants-of-sars-cov-2-in-sewage-suggest-covid-19-may-not-have-originated-at-wuhan-market-some-scientists-dispute-the-findings/
But these tests, both antibodies and PCR, do have false positives and false negatives, and such “fishing expeditions” can essentially emphasize false positives.
It came from Southeast Asia. The deaths/cases are waaaaay too low for it not to have come from there. Even lower than China's. Bat populations are also much bigger/diverse there
Somehow it mutated into a deadly version in Wuhan, and then again into an even deadlier version in Europe
Are you suggesting that it didn't spread there because people were exposed to a less lethal strain, so the population built up some immunity to it?
I'm-a catching-a the COVID virus-a earlier than expected ovah heah gabagool
Just because you guys got sick last year doesn't mean it was Corona lmao
