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  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly, for most Americans on this site, we're so far down the list of who will get a vaccination that we should know a lot more about the safety and efficacy of the vaccine by the time our name rolls around.

    Having said that, wearing masks after vaccination will still be a good idea (vaccine failure and asymptomatic carriers could be dangerous), plus all the good side effects like fucking with facial recognition.

      • russianattack [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        if you use a paper mask you can just put a bandaid on the bridge of your nose on the top edge of the mask

        • cilantrofellow [any]
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          4 years ago

          Or take a napkin and roll it under the top of your mask to make a little filter

          Or buy a mask with a better wire

          Or wear your glasses like an old timey librarian when it starts to fog

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            4 years ago

            or swap in a straightened paper-clip for the shitty plastic strip most disposables have that doesn't hold shape.

            Use pliers to straighten a clip and bend over the ends so it doesn't get stabby, cut a slit in an outer layer of the mask-strip-sleeve to slide out the plastic shit and slide in the metal. When shaped well it drastically reduces fogging.

            This also illustrates what a shitty job most masks are doing at retaining aerosols, which are otherwise blowing out past your nose. Between the neck gaiters, bandanas, and badly fitted masks I see everywhere, I think most people's face coverings are nowhere near as effective as they could and should be.

      • Woly [any]
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        4 years ago

        Try getting masks with rigid metal bands that you can fold around your nose. If you can't find them, get a cloth mask and cut two small slits in the top and thread a piece of metal wire or a paper clip through the slits so it's over-under-over the mask. That will let you mold the mask to the curve of your nose/cheeks, and should help with the fogging problem.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        4 years ago

        In addition to all the other good glasses suggestions, you can get anti-fog spray for them. I used the one I had lying around for my snorkeling mask, it cuts down on fogging a lot you just need to re-up occasionally

        I think it's like $10 for a bottle that'll last for years, I've hardly put a dent in mine

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I wear glasses as well, and I tend to go "librarian", with the glasses forward pinching down the mask to avoid fogging. Not the most secure feeling, but it cuts down the fogging.

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        4 years ago

        That’s wrong though. Lots of vaccines protect from symptoms but not spread (i.e. polio). Some vaccines are not permanent (dengue). Some people cannot get vaccines (allergies).

        This will be a new, Emergency use authorization vaccine with non-comprehensive efficacy data. Many vaccines being produced will require multiple doses and need a dedicated ultra-cold supply chain. Lots of room for failure.

        Get the vaccine, but still wear a mask. As someone who wears one 8-10 hours a day it’s really not that bad you just need ones that fit comfortably.

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            4 years ago

            So, you didn’t address my points at all before repeating your trendy term, but ok.

            I would love normalizing masks in public honestly. The idea that there will always be respiratory viruses and that’s why we shouldn’t bother with masks is Ben Shapino level reasoning - wearing a mask can likely help reduce your exposure to colds and flu as well which would be awesome for a lot of at risk populations. On top of that it blocks facial recognition and provides privacy.

            I’m all for pushing against the CDC’s habit of saying do this because we say so, but explaining it clearly and honestly to make a society where mask wearing is typical would be a positive, both during the pandemic, in the immediate aftermath, and beyond.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        4 years ago

        Even if it was pointless theatre - which it isn't - it's good to normalize face coverings in case you ever want to go to a protest or similar cool zone activities

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        4 years ago

        widespread vaccination

        The vaccines probably won't be 100% effective, so a lot of people will die from a lack of masks.