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  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly, for most Americans on this site, we're so far down the list of who will get a vaccination that we should know a lot more about the safety and efficacy of the vaccine by the time our name rolls around.

    Having said that, wearing masks after vaccination will still be a good idea (vaccine failure and asymptomatic carriers could be dangerous), plus all the good side effects like fucking with facial recognition.

      • russianattack [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        if you use a paper mask you can just put a bandaid on the bridge of your nose on the top edge of the mask

        • cilantrofellow [any]
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          4 years ago

          Or take a napkin and roll it under the top of your mask to make a little filter

          Or buy a mask with a better wire

          Or wear your glasses like an old timey librarian when it starts to fog

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            4 years ago

            or swap in a straightened paper-clip for the shitty plastic strip most disposables have that doesn't hold shape.

            Use pliers to straighten a clip and bend over the ends so it doesn't get stabby, cut a slit in an outer layer of the mask-strip-sleeve to slide out the plastic shit and slide in the metal. When shaped well it drastically reduces fogging.

            This also illustrates what a shitty job most masks are doing at retaining aerosols, which are otherwise blowing out past your nose. Between the neck gaiters, bandanas, and badly fitted masks I see everywhere, I think most people's face coverings are nowhere near as effective as they could and should be.

      • Woly [any]
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        4 years ago

        Try getting masks with rigid metal bands that you can fold around your nose. If you can't find them, get a cloth mask and cut two small slits in the top and thread a piece of metal wire or a paper clip through the slits so it's over-under-over the mask. That will let you mold the mask to the curve of your nose/cheeks, and should help with the fogging problem.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        4 years ago

        In addition to all the other good glasses suggestions, you can get anti-fog spray for them. I used the one I had lying around for my snorkeling mask, it cuts down on fogging a lot you just need to re-up occasionally

        I think it's like $10 for a bottle that'll last for years, I've hardly put a dent in mine

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I wear glasses as well, and I tend to go "librarian", with the glasses forward pinching down the mask to avoid fogging. Not the most secure feeling, but it cuts down the fogging.

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        4 years ago

        That’s wrong though. Lots of vaccines protect from symptoms but not spread (i.e. polio). Some vaccines are not permanent (dengue). Some people cannot get vaccines (allergies).

        This will be a new, Emergency use authorization vaccine with non-comprehensive efficacy data. Many vaccines being produced will require multiple doses and need a dedicated ultra-cold supply chain. Lots of room for failure.

        Get the vaccine, but still wear a mask. As someone who wears one 8-10 hours a day it’s really not that bad you just need ones that fit comfortably.

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            So, you didn’t address my points at all before repeating your trendy term, but ok.

            I would love normalizing masks in public honestly. The idea that there will always be respiratory viruses and that’s why we shouldn’t bother with masks is Ben Shapino level reasoning - wearing a mask can likely help reduce your exposure to colds and flu as well which would be awesome for a lot of at risk populations. On top of that it blocks facial recognition and provides privacy.

            I’m all for pushing against the CDC’s habit of saying do this because we say so, but explaining it clearly and honestly to make a society where mask wearing is typical would be a positive, both during the pandemic, in the immediate aftermath, and beyond.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        4 years ago

        Even if it was pointless theatre - which it isn't - it's good to normalize face coverings in case you ever want to go to a protest or similar cool zone activities

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        4 years ago

        widespread vaccination

        The vaccines probably won't be 100% effective, so a lot of people will die from a lack of masks.

  • Drowned_Wednesday [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I can't wait until they make the vaccine mandatory, but not free, so that people who can't afford it get fined or something stupid.

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Please get the “vaccine”

    They are actually secretly injecting you with Lenin’s spinal fluid and upon globally broadcasted command your DNA will change and turn you into a commie catgirl super soldier.

    (On a serious note, I don’t feel comfortable with a rushed vaccine and I’m also immunocompromised so I won’t be taking any risks until everything is abundantly clear)

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    4 years ago

    Yeah the only problem I have is that "operation warp speed" means 0 journalism gets done on any vaccine candidates. So we have these pharmaceutical companies who do whoopsie lies all the time and kill people in developing countries say "this vaccine is suspiciously effective to the point that it's almost a fucking miracle" and everyone just takes their word for it. I don't think the vaccine will be harmful but I do believe Pfizer and Moderna are full of shit.

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    4 years ago

    I'm not getting the first few waves both because I'm sceptical of the quality of rushed vaccines (as someone even vaccinated against exotic shit) and because I'm demographically in a good spot to survive the virus. If those can go to people under more threat then I'll try to get it sometime in the summer or autumn when it starts peaking again.

    Whatever side effects there could be, it's probably not as bad as losing lung function and cognitive function and increasing your risk of strokes. I want to see the data though.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'll happily get the vaccine but only if it's the same they give to Bezos, Biden and Boris Johnson.

    • Will2Live [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There aren't enough adrenochrome factories in the world to make more than a couple of those

  • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I'm curious to see if another country has a successful vaccine first.

    Was talking to a nurse friend the other day who was saying the chance of the US actually being able to implement a large scale vaccination program is slim to none. Even assuming that 1) the vaccine is effective, and 2) that most people would actually take it, out ability to carry out any kind of big project is shit.

  • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I am honestly waiting to see if they cut funding for it after china makes one and gives ir ro cuba first

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Well good thing us US Americans live in a country that will definitely take care of your resulting medical issues should they make a vaccine mandatory!

    fr though I definitely have my concerns about a vaccine (or any sort of medical treatment rushed this quickly, I don't know if I'll wait or not I guess it just depends)

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    they can't make it mandatory. if the absolute state of testing is any indication the bastards are gonna completely cock up roll out to the point most people aren't gonna be able to get vacced in any reasonable timeframe

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    4 years ago

    yes ofc dumbass you should vaccinate. what, have we got antivaxxers in this community now? jeez.

      • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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        4 years ago

        a) most probably it's not gonna come from some bullhsit pharmaceutical conglomerate. b) what else would you do??? not vaccinate? join the crown of "mhh idk what they put in those vaxinesss"?

    • Nuttula [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Being anti-vaxx has nothing to do with the necessary precautions needed with regards to a COVID vaccine. We are witnessing companies stocks going up just because of announced trial results(Pfizer a few days ago).

      Usually science and the scientific method should be respected but the usual procedures that make science works and be trustworthy may not apply here. We are struggling to make people even give a shit about people who died or got infected with complications do you think the public will be outraged when we find out "oops the vaccine we rushed to the market wasn't actually as effective as we claimed"? Hardly people will be desperate for the next rushed to the market miraculous vaccine by some other BS company.

      And the consequences? Nobody will get fired or go to jail over a failed drug, at most the line will go back down a bit before going back up again the next week after everyone forgets what happened.