Productivity has collapsed in the last 10 years
Don't make me tap the sign
"The rate of profit is about to fall off a cliff unless we come up with another computer again, pls help"
Perpetual growth is the ideology of a cancer. Maybe we can do this without serving the tumor's interests?
Industry 4.0 shit is so over-hyped, having more data is useful but you still need to be able to actual fix the issues that get flagged and most issues in a lot of technical industries are only there because they are too complex to be worth solving. The various process improvement tools any company big enough to benefit from 4.0 already uses would have already made 99% of the easy win improvements available.
Anytime companies talk about looking to increase productivity all I can think about is extreme workplace monitoring and time tasking every little thing employees do.
Sometimes I wish I had an office job where I could sit in a cozy cubicle in a comfy chair all day but then I remember shit like this.
Yea process timing is one of the most shitty things employers do for assembly line work. It's not even that useful as overworking people to tight time limits tends to lead to fuckups that take a lot longer to sort out down the line.
capitalists are SOOOO BAD at actually increasing productivity. Like "Open Workplaces" was a fad and they somehow managed to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars essentially just removing cubicles, under the idea it'll foster better communication and shit and fit more people in a space reducing rent for offices, but eventually studies came out saying it DECREASED productivity like 20%. And it took a fucking deathplague to finally let people work from home, when rresearch almost consinstantly shows that if instead of working 5 days in the office, they worked 4 days at home, taking one hole day off, they would STILL be more productive, and it'd decimate fucking how much the company has to pay renting out office space. But of course they pooh-pooh that whenever you'd try to work from home, and do the other stupid thing that actuallly reduced productivity.
You wanna know what I think is gonna be the next big kickoff industry thing that nobody saw coming but changes the world anyway in ways that nobody expected? Hyperspectral imaging. So instead of just having 3 channels of light information like our puny human eyes are evolved for (Red, Blue, Green) or (Hue, Saturation, Value) or ( ratios of red versus green, blue versus yellow, and black versus white), they'll be hundreds if not thousands of channels. Ideally , you'd have a smooth image across a huge chunk of the electromagnetic spectrum, not just the visible stuff. So you could see exactly what specific wavelengths are being reflected,absorbed,etc. What's so cool about this? You figure out what something is made of just by seeing its absorbtion spectrum. You can look at foodstuffs and figure out if there's defects and other qualities just by looking at a hyperspectral image of it. Hyperspectral imaging of aerial photographs can let you tell exactly what species tree cover is made up, what kind of soil it is, what kind of minerals are in the ground, etc. You can take a hyperspectral image of that gross little mole thing that just popped up on your shoulder a few months ago, and see if its just an innocent mole or malignant cancer. if a bunch of the hurdles constraining the technology today (high cost, difficulty making a lens that can form image across large bands of light, large file size, difficulty with photosensors and being able to capture an image across tons of spectra in a brief enough moment it doesn't blur) are leapt over, and it becomes something you can buy in a gadget for a couple hundred bucks, I very strongly feel there will be thousands of practical uses for it we can't even imagine right now.
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So we have this rate of profit, which is great, but it has this tendency to get lower over time? :curious-marx: Guess we'll have to automate more things.
Industry 4.0 is legitimately cool as fuck. It's very early phases, but things like the smart grid where power plants are just automatically turned on and rerouted to massively improved efficiency of the overall system is just straight up cool. Think also like, fully automated supply chains, it's shit like this where you just really want to nationalize Amazon to make it actually accelerate forward faster.
This shit is not going to be used to benefit humanity in any way though. It's going to be used to crush the working class even more and make labor organization impossible.
Nah smart grids are actually good for everyone. Lowers energy cost and means substantially less burned natural gas.
There is a lot more to the whole 4th industrial revolution thing than smart grids though
Yeah I don't disagree, but smart grid is the most meaningful early adoption of industry 4.0 and virtually all the (not vaporware) talk about it currently relates to it.
It's more about how smart grids can mean better utilization rates of renewables than currently is the case because it would otherwise just default to natural gas is what I'm saying.
This isn't cheaper in the same way that if mined gas fell in price.
Cool tech but increasing efficiency =/= meeting the end goal of leaving the vast majority of fossil fuels in the ground
The value of the smart grid is that it allows you to fully utilize the energy being produced by solar and wind farms, which prior to this technology had problems with load balancing.
So while energy consumption can still go up, it does actually mean less natural gas being used as opposed to say, the cost just going down so we end up using it more and just end up producing less renewables.
Ah okay, I was wondering if it addressed those load balancing issues with renewables. Fair, that aspect is objectively good. Doesn't change the fundamental need to progress to ecosocialism, but it does sound like technology which would smooth that transition.
ok, so I've got a question: From what I've read, you can desalinate seawater via reverse osmosis with 1000PSI of pressure against the semi-permeable membrane. At fist that seemed like a shit ton, but them I remembered each meter of water column gives an additional 1.45PSI or so.. That means if you go out to where the ocean is 700m deep, you should be able to desalinate water just with the pressure differential the water column gives. Could't you just put a big membrane on the bottom of the ocean, and have an undeground pipeline routing it back to land, where it could either be stored in some kind of reservoir or just have people drill wells down to pump it up? The logistics might be fucky, but I just looked some shit up and the deepest oil well is 2km deep. I guess keeping the pressure on the other side of the membrane at 1atm could be tough , I could see a hole in the membrane rupturing and then it floods and there's no pressure differential. Hold on a sec, couldn't you just build like a big cube (or sphere) of membrane that holds millions of liters of water, tie a big rock to it so it sinks down to the level where there's enough pressure for reverse osmosis, wait for it to fill up, and then haul it back up from the ocean floor, and have yourself a big bubble of fresh water for agriculture or drinking or waterparks or whatever? Like just get some old submarine, blast a hole in its hull, stretch the proper kind of membrane around the hole, and then have it sink to 700m, where it'll take on water like any submarine that got a hole blown in it would (except this one has to go across a semi permeable membrane, so even though its a SEA-water, it'll be FRESH-water filling up the sub), and then have it surface? I suppose you'd need to build waterproof electronics and engines and stuff so it can function while its flooded, but it can't be that hard, right?
Don't be fooled its just 2 finance bro's talking about innovation with no meaningful context for more than an hour. There was a time when I would try to weed out the god from the bad podcasts in this genre, marxism killed my interest in this meaningless fluff.
Goldman Sacks has a podcast that SoundCloud keeps pushing on me. I guess it's a sign the algorithm doesn't have me completely pegged.
there is a bank here with a podcast with the name, when you translate it, a world to win.
Industry 4.0 is when you have to lease your own skeleton from the bank, and if you default they dissolve it, suck it out with a syringe, and inject it into cows in a CAFO to accelerate their growth by 1.4%
