https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/black-lives-matter-protests-catalyst-anti-semitism/

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Conflating being anti-israel with being anti-semitic is itself anti-semitic and extremely dangerous as it will make people dismiss actual anti-semitism as they become more and more annoyed with the conflation.

    • Baader [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Nevertheless, it happens on a daily basis. These comments make me feel really uncomfortable. As a German with Iranian ancestors, I don't want to criticize Israel in any way that might be anti Semitic. But if BLM is anti Semitic, maybe I am, too

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Extreme anti-racists as opposed to moderate anti-racists that are okay with a little genocide here and there.

  • BookOfTheBread [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Even if Israel wasn't doing any oppressive shit they should still be an issue for anti-racists, it's an ethno state, they are the racists poster child for sending all people from minority descents "back where they came from".

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      List of priorities:

      • The Great Satan
      • Great Satan's TERF granny
      • Germany & France
      • By that time Israel already cooled its genocide, or else...
      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        France is arguably worse than the UK. The UK is just loud and being English speaking you learn more about it.

        If you include everywhere the Queen is connected to as the "UK" then it rises above France. With all that said though we are winning the goal of depowering the UK when it comes to Scotland leaving and freeing Ireland. I don't think we can call what's happening in France anything close to winning.

            • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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              The face cover ban is not just a French thing. Plenty of countries have such bans at this point. Also neither that nor their Muhammad cartoons make them worse than the country with a biannual debate about whether to reintroduce serfdom

              • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                The face cover ban is not just a French thing. Plenty of countries have such bans at this point.

                they were the first

                biannual debate about whether to reintroduce serfdom

                lol, what?

                • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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                  they were the first

                  But not anywhere near the worst.

                  What?

                  British politician and media figures have a running conversation about how the poors are too uppity, and invariably this involves talks of making things more shit while the British public are supposed to be grateful. Which the British public lap up and vote for aristocratic psychos who aren't quite sure whether the poor should get the vote and whether minorities are people. I choose to summarise this as "Biannual debate for serfdom"

                  The French light shit on fire if someone tries to make gas more expensive. France is better.

                  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                    But not anywhere near the worst.

                    blatant islamophobic cartoons projected on government buildings and specifically banning islamic religious dress makes them the worst

                    The French light shit on fire if someone tries to make gas more expensive.

                    and also hate muslims

                    • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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                      What I'm getting is that you're American and trying to score points by denouncing islanophobia. Which, cool. However the Muhammad cartoons are fine, that's not the bad part. That's, if anything, a distraction from real islamophobia within Europe. There are countries trying to build camps, there are others trying to ban Arabic being used in religious rituals, others are just trying to ban Arabic period.

                      In the UK half the country went spare st the prospect of a Muslim politician, the prime minister openly disparages Muslim women, and gushes over far right Hindu nationalists.

                      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                        What I’m getting is that you’re American

                        nope

                        trying to score points by denouncing islanophobia

                        giving a shit about marginalised people is scoring points now

                        the Muhammad cartoons are fine

                        no they aren't

                        There are countries trying to build camps

                        france being one of them

                        In the UK half the country went spare st the prospect of a Muslim politician

                        half is a big overstatement

                        the prime minister openly disparages Muslim women

                        of course he does, he's a tory, he's also incredibly racist and homophobic, but even he hasn't pushed to ban religious dress or project islamophobic shit all over government buildings

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            They're engaged in more imperialism abroad and they're significantly more racist, sexist and islamophobic internally.

            The imperialism is the problem part.

            • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              They've engaged in more imperialism abroad

              Than the British? What the hell is wrong with you?

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                "They are" not "they have". This is an important distinction.

                • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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                  It's still ludicrously wrong. It's the most wrong you can be as a human being.

                  • Awoo [she/her]
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                    4 years ago

                    I don't think so, but I would be open to an attempt to network out the activities of both countries to get a clearer picture. I actually think a project like that would do a lot to help illustrate to libs what the problem actually is. If one already exists mapping out the imperialist interests of each country I would be very interested.

      • LogOffLib [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I really don't know a whole lot about Germany. Can anyone give me a quick primer on them, Angela Merkel, and whatever the hell "ordoliberalism" is?

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Sounds bad according to wikipedia, but I'm all ears

  • c6cain6jih6d [she/her]
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    The reaction begins. Can't fucking wait for the woke Freikorps under the command of Kamala Harris.

  • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Weird Jewish opinion writers are a catalyst for anti semitism

  • sunlead [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I can totally see how a white british woman would know more about BLM than anyone else, truly a brilliant mind. Thank you Britain.

    • Gremblo [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      you can see how these people built the most powerful empire in the history of the world