• Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    LMAO libs, your hero Hillary voted for the border wall in 2006 (the secure fence act).

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    4 years ago

    Do they think the problem with Build the Wall is that the chuds wouldn't compromise on it? They've done nothing BUT compromise. They gave their own money to scam artists trying to build a couple dozen feet of wire fencing when they were promised Mexico would foot the bill for a 10 feet of concrete all along the border. The Wall is evil as a policy because borders are weapons of a racist police state, if libs can't figure that out what exactly is their objection to it? That it's an inefficient use of taxpayer dollars?

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Having principles, wanting things from your elected officials

      BAD

      Constantly "compromising" [caving with no resistance] to a political opponent that is far more aggressive than you

      This is very good.

      I could also comment on the ridiculous equivocation of "good" and "bad" principles, but it really doesn't matter.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I know centrists are fucking stupid but do they have to carry on being this fucking stupid?

    There's a really big difference between caring enough about a good thing it influences who you support and caring enough about an evil thing it influences who you support.

    • Abraxiel
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      4 years ago

      No, all ideologies are ethically equivalent and the only thing that makes them worse or better is how far the deviate from the common-sense-totally-not-an-ideology of neoliberalism.

  • Woly [any]
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    4 years ago

    Every object is a singular physical thing that exists, therefore this loaf of dogshit should be the same to you as this bar of gold. :le-pol-face:

    (As an aside, can we get a smirking twitter lib emoji? Nothing we have quite encapsulates their contemptuous smugness)

    • Electrickoolaide32 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Anyone of Kylie Brakemans lib faces would do. Or smirking Bill Maher would be a good choice.

      Or those pictures that they take of libs where their eyes are super bright and they are always looking up at something off camera like this

      https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/9a2/9da/0b71368f3263d0e58b199a714c958d1941-12-pete-buttigeg-lede.rvertical.w1200.jpg

      Anything like those would fit

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        smirking Bill Maher

        I second that, but it might make me too angry to see on the reg. He is the avatar of snide asshole democrats tho

    • worker_democracy [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Conservatives: "I want to hurt everyone and not have anyone bug me about it."

      Liberals: "I want to hurt everyone and also have everyone LOVE MEEEEE!!!!"

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        cons also want everyone to love them, they will never stop being assmad about all art being arrayed against them

  • Homestar440 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is really peak Obama-brain if you think about it. He’s not wrong, exactly, these are two slogans representing two policy positions supported by two different groups. What he’s implicitly arguing is that wanting any kind of non-technocratic political action at all is what makes them bad takes.

    • KurdKobein [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, it's like all those articles about Republicans being a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist party or something because they are capable of fighting for power and using it to implement their political goals.

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    "I don't want to die or go bankrupt from treatable disease." & "Keep all the browns out of our country!"

    Libs: These are the same to me.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We should treat these people exactly like conservatives.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      "Liz the Neera Tanden stan"? Yes. Someone who's deeply, intentionally, ideologically liberal is worth treating as a lost cause.

      But there are tens of millions of people who are much closer in attitude to "yeah, Biden's fine I guess, at least he's not Trump." They're vaguely liberal, but they aren't ideologically committed to anything, really. Those people are reachable.

  • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I mean at this point I will never donate to or vote for a Democrat again so they should keep going. Please continue everyone. Do your best to alienate 30% of your own voting bloc. I now also walk around telling people to stay home on election days and the reasons why. These people would rather have Joe Manchin in the party than Bernie Sanders or even AOC. They'll never openly say that about AOC because she has +2 to idpol shield. This is a game to them because they've had very easy lives.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      more like 40-50% of their (left) voting bloc at this point if you look at the numbers. though 75% support m4a

    • TossedAccount [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I now also walk around telling people to stay home on election days and the reasons why.

      The only part of this I disagree with. We should encourage the alienated 30-40% of mostly working-class typical non-voters to vote for third-party socialist/working-class candidates where they exist, and to turn out to vote on ballot questions/referenda when they're on the table.

      • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        True. I just meant it more in terms of staying away from the traditional Democratic Party candidates.

  • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    I don't understand why neolibs would be against M4A, aside that it benefits poor folks. It's good for productivity, frees up money to consume and travel, saves corporations money... I guess they're just penitentiary dick heads

    • CuminAndSalt [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      M4A is both too simple and too drastic of an idea. They'd rather have some overly complicated technocratic knob turning.

    • Guntpunch [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The disdain they have for the poor is enough, thats all it is. They hate poor people

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Cuz their kweens (who have stocks in insurance companies) tell them is evil, and they see how much poor people want it so it's even worse in their eyes.

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They would probably be OK with it in the abstract ("we like it but it isn't happening") if the US left didn't exist. Since the US left exists, they have to openly oppose it.

    • shitstorm [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      American neolibs are different than other countries' technocrats. The UK and EU knows to give concessions to their people for the sake of a strong consumer base, but the American elite are so resentful of the poor that they view giving even the slightest concessions as a total failure if there isn't an equal or greater handout to elites (see: Obamacare).

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Long rooted anti communist sentiment has made it so that the American ruling party would most likely refuse social services to poor people even when it's directly against their own self interest. They'd rather see capitalism collapse rather than make concessions to the poor to uphold capitalism out of pure spite