https://twitter.com/dilemmvburner/status/1333966393272889344

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Did any candidates running on "Defund the police" actually lose in 2020? I don't think a single one did.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      No you see, defund the police lost seats because it's popular. We can't have candidates running on popular platforms, they have to appease the moderates!

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    Obama is the whole reason Dems haven't had senate control in forever now.

    He entered office in 2009 with a Democratic super majority. The first thing they did was reach across the isle and compromise with the GOP who were demanding that they get a 60 vote approval from the senate to pass anything. They agreed to handcuffing themselves, then wasted the next 2 years on drama with the senate featuring people like Al Franken and I think Joe Lieberman. During this time, Obama was busy bailing out the banks and wall street during the recession.

    He could've rammed policy. He could've stood up to the GOP and told them "no, you have been destroying this country for the past 8 years with Bush and we're tired of it". He did none of that cause he was a weak coward. Instead, he wanted to play by the rules that the GOP were setting, and he did just that. Midterms rolled in for 2010 and they got slaughtered by the GOP as the initial wave of the Tea Party was up and running. The retort back then, similar to now was for libs to just talk about how STUPID STUPID STUPID the Tea Party people were and laugh at them. Come 2012, they practically had taken over the GOP and the old neocons whom liberals now adore (McCain, Romney, Kasich) were hanging on by a thread in the Tea Party's onslaught.

    Dems didn't learn either from the 2014 midterms where the GOP wiped the floor with them. They did the same song and dance that liberals always do - call people 'stupid' and blame them for not voting and then attack the left. It's what they'll do when the GOP wins the run off in Georgia next month and we'll get blamed for them retaking the house in 2022 as a result of Biden's failures.

    I fucking hate Obama so much and the cult of personality that liberals and the media have built around this man. He was such a cowardly useless politician. Of all the figures to built a cult of personality around and worship, they choose this man just for his blackness, and even that isn't really a good reason given how much he is against protesters. When the Ferguson and Baltimore protests happened, he made speeches telling them to go home and specifically referred to the Baltimore protesters as "thugs", so I don't give a fuck about his blackness.

    But seriously, he's so weak. Conservatives have a cult of personality around Reagan and Trump, who managed to hurt their enemies and Reagan has left a legacy that is centered on rising fascism in the US. What did Obama accomplish? A shitty healthcare system that was nothing more than a bailout to insurance companies, extended all of Bush's policies from the tax cuts, the PATRIOT Act and refusing to end the wars in the middle east. Obama was such a lousy president for 8 years that it made people turn to a fucking reality TV star hoping he would make things better. That's his legacy.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        He voluntarily wanted to cut Social Security payments. That should be a big tell to everyone right there.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        His job was to represent the American people who voted for him. He failed to do that.

        I don't think he wanted to do the right thing. He has given speeches at colleges in the past year where he smugly bragged about helping wall street and having a bigger oil boom than Bush.

        He knew what he was doing in manipulating everyone into thinking he was going to help us all. The man was extremely charismatic and very good at selling bullshit. It worked. We all got duped.

    • shitstorm [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I have to challenge the "Obama is weak" narrative. He's always been a centrist ghoul, he only pretended to be a progressive for the 2008 election. As a state senator he got called out by his black constituents about it the same way he gets called out now. Obama didn't fold to Republicans because he's a coward, that was always the plan.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      and I think Joe Lieberman.

      Definitely Joe Lieberman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLDSnlG0aCc

      ETA: Small point of order though, Obama's cult of personality isn't just because he's black, its also because he's charismatic and made brunch liberals feel like things were "normal". Mostly the charisma.

    • ComradeLove [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

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  • tye35343 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    We tried to do nothing and succeeded. You tried to do something and failed. Checkmate, leftist.

  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Nancy Pelosi's "strategy" of giving fuck all about voters struggling during a pandemic while enabling the GOP and the petulant man child POTUS had nothing to do with it.

    "We feed them"

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    "Yes we can" isn't a policy, it's barely a slogan. Good luck to dems with ever finding another candidate that is so charismatic they can (once) win a supermajority by repeating literally any string of words.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Also every seat lost is not a progressive seat right?

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      Yes. Every dem who lost their seat was a centrist. At least the incumbents, not sure if this carries over to open seats or not.

      • ComradeLove [he/him, comrade/them]
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        Yeah, because even the elites can't seem to grasp the concept of regression to the mean. They took a lot of marginal seats in 2018, they gave some of them back in 2020.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Claire McCaskill lost her seat because AOC whispered "socialism" into a conch shell and threw it into the ocean.

  • cum_drinker69 [any]
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    4 years ago

    Reading this lost me brain cells.

    If "yes we can" won Obama two elections then by the same metric didn't "defund the police" win Biden the election? Or are the rules not that consistent when you're just making hot take dogshit up in your head?

      • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I was thinking of Trump's constant transgression of norms, but the Bob the Builder chant probably would have gone over well at his rallies too...

  • mayor_pete_buttigieg [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Hah! The black activists and the anarchists who popularized "defund the police" will definitely feel so bad about some democrats losing that they will stop using their most well known slogan!

  • MasterCombine [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Wasn’t it mostly milquetoast moderates that lost their seats? The type of people who didn’t support defunding the police?