It’s literally a picture of a vehicle stopping in front of a pedestrian, if anything that shows how barbaric chuds are for running over BLM protesters
It’s literally a picture of a vehicle stopping in front of a pedestrian, if anything that shows how barbaric chuds are for running over BLM protesters
What is this historical revisionism? Here's some victims they did roll tanks over (NSFW, obv).
In this instance, China bad.
While it may seem a minor distinction; those victims were not killed in the square itself, protesters in Tiananmen were dispersed without bloodshed. Outside of the square was a different story with a great deal of violence between both PLA and protesters. There were numerous cases of PLA soldiers being lynched and/or burned to death fwiw (again NSFL).
Chinese Government sources put the total estimate of fatalities at around 300 during for the whole June Fourth Incident, and wider protest movement, which most credible sources back up.
Here's a nuanced and informative article on the affair:
not to mention the anti-African protests that raged on for months that started at Nanda University & actually bled over into & inspired the Tiananmen unrest
fucking fancy lad incels
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvhgBDpU8AAINmO.jpg
Doesn't change the fact that tank man is dumb. If they had gotten any footage of your photos then they would have made for less dumb propaganda (provided it wasn't a dead body that was run over).
Shit take lol "doesn't count unless it's actually photos of people being ran over"
That's a fucking moped on the left
These photos prove nothing, you're just propagating further CIA propaganda.
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Whether or not folks were run over by tanks.
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Dude you sound exactly like the fash defending the Greek junta, "but people weren't killed INSIDE the Polytechnic by the tank in particular, stop pushing this propaganda!". What difference does it make to you if they were ran over by a tank or killed some other way?
This is besides the point but, the manner in which people are killed, and the reasons for which they are killed, are all relevant. Crushing people with tanks is measures of cruelty worse than executing them by gunfire next to a wall. Having said that, the "people were crushed by tanks at Tiananmen Square" is all part of the propaganda levied against the CCP. It's a fabrication intended to make them seem merciless and to equivocate them to fascists.
Really? I really don't think so. And I really can't figure out why you are so willing to die on that hill. Is shooting at them is so much different to rolling them over that one pushes it to fascist territory and the other is merciful and fine?
All of this is besides the point.
No it isn't, the point is exactly your weird insistence.
The uprising started with lynchings of PLA Soldiers though.
If you got run over by a tank in those protests it's because you were a CIA funded liberal counter-revolutionary trying to lynch PLA soldiers because a CIA agent had chanted "freedom" into your ear long enough you were riled up to murder so China could be opened for Western corporations like USSR.
Here's a PLA soldier, hanged and burned by CIA funded protestors
https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/tiann_1.jpg
130 CIA paid for protestors, propagandists and instigators were rat-lined to the US after it failed
https://web.archive.org/web/20200604113735/https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/06/02/the-great-escape-from-china/5da31d0d-aca1-4c56-9178-767d14c29f62/?utm_term=.d187cf2f2940
There were only 200 deaths and half of those were PLA soldiers. It was a low level skirmish with some panicky, untrained troops responding to a bunch of brainwashed, Western infatuated dickheads
https://www.globalresearch.ca/tiananmen-square-massacre-is-a-myth-all-were-remembering-are-british-lies/5386080
I gotta say IDGAF about those that fucked around with the PLA soldiers
Low quality images of blood on the street and a crushed moped is definitiely proof that they ran over innocents with tanks and that you are a revisionist for questioning it.
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The Hungarian Revolution was responded to in the midst of destalinization... so I don't think we can blame Stalinists for that
while they're both appalling photos, the tank in the picture on the left isn't operational, and doesn't even have a turret on top....
also, if you look closely at the remnants on the ground by the tank, it looks much more like a crushed bicycle or motorbike... no body parts or blood is actually visible unlike in the other photo
the picture on the right is gross though.
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"The stalinists" you mean Cornshev who just denounced Stalin in a 'Secret Speech' which was immediately leaked to the west and would go on to make revisions to Marxist-Leninist (there's no such thing as Stalinist) policies that include
denigrating the central planning system as a "Stalinist holdover"
Privatising the tractor stations (farmers essentially collectively owned their means of production here. You just went to a tractor station and collected your tractor)
restoring the profit motive in 1965
Denouncing the era of the dictatorship of the proletariat and the Party is now a "party of the whole people" instead of the proletariat
Announced it was now possible for peaceful co-existence between Socialism and Capitalism (rather than a fight to the death as MLs have always stated)
The ideology and history understander has logged on
Also the Hungarian revolution was a MI6 backed counter-revolution who's fascistic elements of Hungarian society (Hungary having been a fascist dictatorship for 25 years prior to Soviet liberation) and were lynching communists and jews and they deserved to be crushed
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi6-trained-rebels-to-fight-soviets-in-hungarian-revolt-1359599.html
https://diplomaticpost.co.uk/index.php/2020/10/21/the-first-gladio-style-colour-revolution-the-hungarian-fascist-counter-revolution-of-1956/
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Apologies for unnecessary sarcasm comrade
For a full rounded history about the Hungarian revolution I can recommend this book
The Truth About Hungary
Some Marxist-Leninists have become so sick of the Anti-Stalin crusade in the Left have taken to becoming obnoxious and call themselves "Stalinists" but in truth nothing exists. Stalin did not synthesize a new Marxism as Lenin did (to create Marxism-Leninism). Stalin, theoretically and ideologically, was a Marxist-Leninist
If you are interested in exactly what Kruschev did and the policies he changed I recommend these 2 books
Kruschev Lied goes through Kruschevs secret speech and proves he was a liar. It explains exactly how the revisionists sought to place all the blame for some of the murkier parts of Soviet history on Stalins shoulders...So they could then begin dismantling the Soviet Socialist system he built
This book goes through the exact policies they changed of the Soviet system as well as provides a good theoretical understanding of why the Soviet Union was socialist and exactly what policies were revised under Kruschev then the Kosygin reforms of 1965
Restoration of Capitalism in the USSR, Martin Nichlaus
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again, I don't know the exact context of the photo on the right nor the one on the left, so the only thing I agree with is that it appears to be a grisly scene
doesn't mean that the victim wasn't a soldier or gov't official burned/beaten by protestors, as others here have pointed out occurred
still not sure what you're talking about military force against civilians lol, you are being vague I think
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it's someone who responded in this same thread
"While it may seem a minor distinction; those victims were not killed in the square itself, protesters in Tiananmen were dispersed without bloodshed. Outside of the square was a different story with a great deal of violence between both PLA and protesters. There were numerous cases of PLA soldiers being lynched and/or burned to death fwiw (again NSFL). https://blog.hiddenharmonies.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6.-Another-soldier-burned-to-death-hanging-by-a-cable-from-the-burned-out-bus..jpg
Chinese Government sources put the total estimate of fatalities at around 300 during for the whole June Fourth Incident, and wider protest movement, which most credible sources back up.
Here’s a nuanced and informative article on the affair: https://frso.org/main-documents/looking-back-at-tiananmen-square-the-defeat-of-counter-revolution-in-china/"
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no problem, also check out the extent to which Radio Free Europe/VOA and former Nazi collaborators were behind the bourgeois nationalist uprising in Hungary
"reference to the uprising as a “pogrom”, insisting that “Nazis were let out of prisons by the thousands”. It also features Hungarian Socialist politician Szófia Havas, who says that “revolutionaries went from house to house in search of communists and Jews” and “the revolution couldn’t have broken out without groups of ex-Nazi dissenters trained by the CIA who were meant to promote a fascist-counterrevolutionary coup”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/bela-kiraly-soldier-who-led-hungarian-resistance-against-the-soviet-union-during-the-1956-uprising-1741949.html
MFer was literally a Nazi collaborator
"Socialist Prime Minister Gyula Horn, who took part in post-1956 reprisals between December 1956 and June 1957, sparked outrage in 2007 after telling the news magazine HVG that “For example, I don’t consider 1956 as a revolution because there’s no way I could call Arrow Cross supporters who escaped prison revolutionaries”."
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/28/world/archives-confirm-false-hope-fed-hungary-revolt.html
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Chapo and regurgitating right wing propaganda about 1956, name a more iconic duo.
hmm
If the person on the right was ran over with a tank why doesn't the blood trail look like tank treads? Also the picture on the left is a motorcycle or something.