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Fetterman: I'll Never Understand Progressives Who Won't Support Biden

Sen. John Fetterman has a message for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party: get in line behind President Joe Biden.

"Get behind Joe Biden's policies, or you're gonna get behind Trump's policies," said the Pennsylvania Democrat.

Fetterman made the remarks during a sit-down with reporters in his Senate office on Tuesday, answering questions with the help of a tablet that displays an instant transcript of reporters' spoken questions. He continues to recover from an auditory processing disorder caused by a stroke that happened during the 2022 campaign.

To illustrate his point, Fetterman hearkened back to his own support for Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign as the mayor of Braddock, even after he had supported Sen. Bernie Sanders during the primary.

"In 2016, you know, I was a surrogate for Senator Clinton. And it's just like, you have a choice," said Fetterman. "And if you don't get behind Senator Clinton, you know, you are voting for Trump. And that's exactly what happened in Pennsylvania, and it's devastating."

  • edge [he/him]
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    Somehow this is the second best person in the Senate.

      • D61 [any]
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        Remember folks, Progress, just means "marginally better". the-more-you-know

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    And I'll never understand how progressives could vote to break a strike, John, but that's who you've thrown your hat in with shrug-outta-hecks

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    The H A R M R E D U C T I O N brainworms are already wiggling around here, too.

    Thanks, federated guests! sus-soviet

  • wild_dog [they/them]
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    that's okay John, I don't see how a progressive can support Israel like you do so we can call it even.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    The problem is unlike Hillary, we've seen the results of Biden's policies; he crushed trump in deportations, police funding, military expansion, strike breaking and even fuckin oil and drilling lol

    Then theres the whole radio silence on abortion rights, keeping trump's tax breaks, arming nazis in Ukraine and letting covid benefits expire, but those are things libs will give him points for

    By any objective measure Biden is worse than Trump, except maybe in personal sexual assault cases

    lmao fuck voting in national elections under these monstrous conditions, all the moral signaling about why voting for Trump is wrong applies even more to Biden

  • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    Can anybody confirm if the /r/politics circlejerks are even real people? For a good 4 years I never met anyone who fit the /r/politics vibe outside of that subreddit.

    Like I'm trying to emphasize that for 4 years, no notable user in a niche subreddit, nobody on Discord, nobody on other forums, no real life colleague or family member ever actively engaged with that subreddit. The place was always weird.

    • wild_dog [they/them]
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      i have, i met them playing bar trivia. they always wanted me on their team because the host always asked super niche music and sports questions that i knew the answers to but they also would always try to pick fights with me in between rounds about politics. it didn't bother me much bc i would just get drunk and lightly bully them over it.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      It's regional.

      I think some locations, like NYC, DC, and significant portions of the west coast are where you'll find /r/politics enlightened centrists. The lattermost I can confirm for myself. yea

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        New England is half Raytheon Libs and half MAGA Chuds

        Honestly think they prop up a solid quarter of all American flags sold worldwide

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          The outer periphery of the Bay Area, especially if you nudge toward its east side away from the coast, is like half bazinga tech liberals that commute to the city up to an hour or two because it's that unaffordable to live there, even for them. The other half is full blown MAGA chuds with Thin Blue Line flags and huge child crushing trucks. grillman

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      Can anybody confirm if the /r/politics circlejerks are even real people?

      Real DNC flaks. Reddit has been controlled opposition since the '00s.

      • YouKnowIt [he/him]
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        I still remember when they posted some airforce base as one of the most reddit addicted cities in 2013. Here's an archive of that in fact!

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          A bunch of 20-somethings stuck in front of computers for 14 hours a day... What else are they going to do with their time?

    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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      90% of those posters must either live in DC or work directly in party politics around the US.

    • @W_Hexa_W
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      deleted by creator

  • Spike [none/use name]
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    The libs have convinced me, in my next local election I will vote for Joe Biden

    I don't live in the US

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    I saw those posts immediately after 2022 midterms. Can't wait for Biden to lose and the entire Dem establishment and the media will blame the left for it.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      Excited to hear how Trans People Should Have Voted Harder as we get another round of street protests and cop killings.

    • dead [he/him]
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      Even before he had a stroke, Fetterman said that he was not a socialist. He supports unions and policies like Medicare for All, but he denies being a socialist.

        • dead [he/him]
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          If somebody says they are not a socialist, I tend to believe them. People who think Fetterman is a socialist are doing vibes-based politics.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    Get behind austerity Neoliberalism or you're getting behind austerity Neoliberalism

  • zan [she/her]
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    Its always funny how ranked choice voting is never a topic of discussion when the duopoly tries to fearmonger the spoiler effect.

    • Florist [none/use name]
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      It is talked about, at least on r/politics. Most of the commenters think that will solve American politics, lmao

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    "You can choose the lash, or you can chose the lash with spikes on it. Good things aren't possible now kneel!"

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    RES reminded me that the redditor who posted it, TheExtremistModerate, is a fan of the Iron Front.

    Iron Front

    The Iron Front (German: Eiserne Front) was a German paramilitary organization in the Weimar Republic which consisted of social democrats, trade unionists, and democratic socialists. Its main goal was to defend social liberalism and democracy and freedom against totalitarian ideologies on the far-right and far-left.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      TheExtremistModerate, is a fan of the Iron Front

      It was a trending meme back when /r/Communism and the other leftist subs weren't entirely de-moderated and neutered/banned by admins. Not shocked to see he got in on the party.

      But the whole "Which side would you Stan in 1930s Germany?" was already horribly cringe and gross. Just a bunch of armchair dweebs fantasizing of a time and place when hunting your neighbors for support was socially acceptable.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      totalitarianism/authoritarianism ww2 both-sidesing really matured into the ideology we see today in the post-war years... i wonder how exactly they presented it then? the idea that communists took marching orders from moscow is prewar but i don't think 'totalitarian' and horseshoe theory was there yet. i mean the spanish & french did red-liberal united fronts contemporaneous with Three Arrows