Hoes mad

    • opposide [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The invisible hand will spend billions of dollars to crush a more efficient system because capital = power

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The concept of planning infrastructure past the next fiscal year is alien to CNN.

  • lvysaur [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    cope chang. those are uyghurs who were plucked straight from the death camps and put there just to pose for a picture.

  • btbt [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    All that America builds are new subdivisions

  • HntrKllr [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    how it started: :mao-shining:

    how it’s going : :mao-aggro-shining:

        • undernopretext [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          New neighbourhoods in outer/suburban districts typically have well separated bike lanes for precisely the reason that mainline road traffic is often 18-wheelers for days.

        • maverick [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I'm imagining a hilly city with raised bike lanes that go over roads and such. Would be so cool and would mitigate the hilliness

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        4 years ago

        Bikes are better than cars, but fuck them as well. Walk or get on the train.

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                4 years ago

                Exactly, another tool to make us feel like we need to be getting places quicker than our own bodies can provide.

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                    4 years ago

                    I mean yeah fuck busses, trains are cool for very obvious reasons.

                    Like I said walk or take the train. But since that’s not an option for most people we’re forced into all these other awful modes of transportation, including bikes.

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                        Bikes are mostly single use forms of transportation. Trains move large parts of the population and if we actually did city planning correctly you wouldn’t need a bike to get to and from work. You wanna ride it for fun, great, but go look at cities where bikes have taken the place of vehicles, they fuck up commuting for pedestrians.

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                                I don’t want to walk on the sidewalk. I want to walk in the middle of the street without having to worry about someone running me over with their bike.

                                Also tons of poor bikers that can’t keep up with regular traffic feel it’s a good to ride on the sidewalk

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                                    I doubt “no one” does. You may see a majority of bikers using the bike lanes, but anytime there’s a sidewalk and the biker feels like they can’t keep up with the flow of traffic in that lane they move to the sidewalk.

                                    I hope you enjoy your biking, this mostly idealism on my part. I am actually a bigger supporter of increasing resources and city infrastructure to pedestrians rather than focusing on what to do with bikes and cars. Just give me a place where they aren’t around me.

                • mayo_cider [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  This is such a weird take living in a city with a proper infrastructure for bikes and pedestrians. I mostly use my bike to get to the parks in the city centre to hang out with my friends in summer, I'd much rather spend 20 minutes riding my bike than walking for an hour so I can spend more time with them. Bikes don't really get in the way of pedestrians since people know how to behave on public roads and bikes stay on their own lanes. I guess it's a cultural thing, but the culture needs the infrastructure to develop itself.

  • maeve [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Between this post and the one about the full “ghost” cities, I’m starting to think that maybe China, idk, actually puts thought into how and where people are going to live. Wild.

  • Importantguy123 [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Meanwhile, the city that popularized the automobile lost it's only (infrequent and shitty) commuter tail system in the late 70's and hasn't had any comprehensive rail transit since then cause the auto industry would rather let the whole metro area stagnant than lose any profits on it's home turf

    • opposide [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      It’s amazing and takes an absolutely absurd amount of study and foresight

        • opposide [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Then western nations will fabricate stories of empty and lifeless cities while theirs are filled with wage slaves sending 60% of their income to landlords

  • quartz242 [she/her]M
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    4 years ago

    Yea it's kinda amazing, the huge discrepancy in u.s city planning is stunning, and car centric

    • opposide [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      American cities spend billions of dollars trying to make cars and cities cohabitate every year instead of spending billions of dollars once to just make it mass transit friendly and then have lasting infrastructure

      • captcha [any]
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        4 years ago

        Well most US cities have zero cash reserves and can only do major projects with a banks approval.

        Want to spend millions on a mental health facillity? "Nah, we're not sure thats a wise investment." Same amount on a new jail? "Approved"

      • quartz242 [she/her]M
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        4 years ago

        Lol imagine some fail son developer getting the contract to do that and just absolutely phoning it in resulting in some horrific urban abomination

    • kestrel_ [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      You're referring to a lack of planning. Local leaders in most places would rather let private development interests drive growth than listen to some wonk nerds trying to "plan for the public good", hence sprawling suburbs and gentrified downtowns everywhere. It's just capitalism physically manifested and it's been like this pretty much for forever.

  • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The article:

    https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/chongqing-china-metro-station-nowhere/index.html

    The station mentioned in article:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Caojiawan+Station&t=brave&ia=web&iaxm=maps&strict_bbox=0&bbox=30.61986570110841%2C105.66484571688568%2C28.806975539791686%2C108.41142774813568&iai=1204692301788989

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E6%9B%B9%E5%AE%B6%E6%B9%BE%E7%AB%99/@29.7180147,106.4837051,14z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x36ecd30531274563:0x61215f6413cc28bd!8m2!3d29.719459!4d106.49894

    The wikipedia article has the same photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caojiawan_station

    If you want to be a big greasy nerd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongqing_Rail_Transit

    IF you want to talk about infrastructure failure, there's plenty in the US: https://www.abandonedraillines.com/2019/09/the-amstutz-expressway.html

    Decades old stretch of highway that spans about... two 1/2 miles.