Watching Indiana Jones right now, and Marians comments like "I was just a child" and Jones' falling out with her father seem to indicate that Jones fondled a child in the story. Which... uh. What the hell? It's not even like a big part of the plot, it's just thrown in

  • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, almost none of our beloved 80s classics hold up to modern scrutiny. To the point where I don't even wanna show them to young family members.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Empire Strikes Back has horrible messaging about consent between Solo and Leia

      • cosecantphi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Damn wtf. I haven't watched the Star Wars in a very long while, could you refresh my memory on that bit?

        • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Han posts up and starts feeling up on the princess and she multiple times asks him to stop and leave her alone. This is during a period where they are trapped on a ship together for an extended period of time.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          https://www.mic.com/articles/186792/does-the-best-star-wars-movie-hold-up-in-the-metoo-era-lets-ask-han-solo

          https://www.theloquitur.com/pop-culture-perpetuates-dating-violence/

    • KimJongChill [undecided]
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      4 years ago

      Alien and Aliens I think do.

      I noticed John Carpenter movies pretty much don’t have women characters.

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I think Carpenter can't write women well, so he just... doesn't.

        Sometimes that's good - like part of the appeal of The Thing is that it avoids so many horror tropes (not about teens, no sex to punish people for, etc.), plus you get to have fun arguments about the meaning of The Thing as a metaphor for female presence breaking down a male circle. I tend to think those arguments are navel gazing, and that it's much more about the general breakdown of societal trust, but I've seen the argument.

      • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Good call on alien, that did have specific feminist influence on the writing process

    • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This isn't even an important part of the story. Its like one line that they just put in there which totally recontextualizes the character.

      • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        70s? but yeah, actually that one holds up.

        Oddly I think the Schwarzenegger Connan holds up pretty well to. Not perfect, but way better than star wars

        • RedArmor [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          First blood was in 82.

          How about this? Instead of First Blood is First Bud, and it’s about the first time a veteran comes home and smokes weed.

          • chiefecula [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Nah, fuck that, the first Rambo movie is great and shouldn't be fucked with. The guy is just passing by when the pigs assault him for no reason so he kills the shit out of them, it's amazing. The only downside is he tries to get rid of them without killing anyone, but realistically it makes perfect sense the guy would try to just disengage instead of throwing his life away just to kill a couple of pigs.