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  • Not_irony [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    the real idea is buying some property and snowballing all the rent that we are all paying, to buy more property, to free more comrades from rent slavery, to get more property. rent is so damn high you could split the difference between the normal landlords and a co-op property holdings company and I'd still be saving hundreds a month

      • Not_irony [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        i'm sure there is some reason its a bad idea, legally. the powers that be would 100% come after a leftist landlord that was under cutting the market, but if someone does the legal ground work and can demonstrate its on the up and up, i'll donate. i guess a gofundme, hiring a lawyer, talking to some leftist news outlets, forming a LLC. I'd love for my over priced rent to go towards praxis, even better if it went down 20%

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          The best way to do it would be to dress it up as a company or a non-profit. You can basically write whatever socialist thing you want into the constitution and make the commune members equal shareholders.

          Make the mechanisms of the state work for you, that way they can't undermine you without undermining themselves.

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Here are the issues I see with the idea:

          "Undercutting the market" isn't really how it works when it comes to rent, because you're not actually making a product. You're talking about buying a property from a current owner and then letting people stay there at a discounted rate, which means that the whale who you bought the property from already got compensated. They won't care that you're undercutting them because for each person you offer discounted rent, you have to do business with them first. Meanwhile you're competing against a bunch of people who have zero qualms about charging full rent and squeezing as much as possible from their tenants, and they're going to make more money from their properties and expand more quickly.

          That said, I'm not saying it can't work - for the same reason that undercutting the market isn't really a threat to landlords, other landlords expanding more quickly isn't going to "put you out of business" or anything. We are propagandized to think that landlords are the same as business owners and that there is no difference between land and manufactured goods, but the truth is that they have very different economic properties. If I make shoes and someone finds a more profitable business model for shoes and undercuts me, then I won't be able to sell any shoes anymore. But if I have real estate then I can sit back and collect income from it no matter what a competitor does. Even saying that landlords are competitors to other landlords isn't really accurate. When you undercut a business by manufacturing goods, you force other business to lower their prices to match yours. But when dealing with land, where your supply is limited and the only way to get more of it is by buying from the people you're hoping to undercut, you don't force prices down, you're just doing a favor to the first lucky person to snatch up the deal. Which, you know, cool, but it's not substantially different from just finding a random person on the street and handing them a check.

          • Not_irony [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            This makes sense, but I don't know if you could convince other landlords that is how it worked. If the co-op got large enough, or even if other landlords got wind of the idea, I can almost guarantee they would work to undermine it. But that is true of all leftist projects, in general

          • DasRav [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Constant inspections and actually writing you up for stuff that would slide in other places, I'd think. Selective enforcement of laws is quite a powerful tool.

            • Not_irony [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              this is the sort of stuff i figured, too. up to the point of literally just sending the cops to come harass you. cops have a vested interest in and consider themselves the protectors of the real estate market

    • quartz242 [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Yea and start community gardens in every place that you can. Love this

  • Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    somebody start a chapo coop, but its like a chicken coop

      • Washburn [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        A lot of trade unions will take you on as an apprentice if you want to get in on construction. They teach you the trade, they pay you, and you get on the job experience.

          • Washburn [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            IBEW has an apprenticeship program for electricians. I even hear radio ads for it every now and then.

            http://www.ibew.org/Tools/Local-Union-Directory

            The UBC affiliated union in my area has a millwright apprenticeship program. You might look and see if there's a Carpenters Union with a program in your area

            https://staging.carpenters.org/regional-council/

            UA represents a pretty wide range of trades workers, plumbers, pipefitters, welders, and HVAC technicians, but not every local will have an apprenticeship program for all trades. Look into the local in your area for more info.

            http://www.ua.org/locals#

            There was one more I was thinking of, but it's slipped my mind. Hopefully you can find something you like. If you had a different trade in mind let me know and I might be able to find something out.

    • NeoAnabaptist [any]
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      4 years ago

      I'm not really a "manager" but yeah being in charge of other people when there's no good reason to fucking sucks.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Well the good thing is that under a co-op, there's not really a manager unless they are democratically chosen to lead some aspect of the project.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That makes sense. Maybe more applicable if you have more people or you have one person you work with who you can trust, but you might be interested in the works of Stafford Beer (yeah that's his name). A lot of what he did was around organizations and systems but a lot of it has applicability to co-op type organizations. Like how to run an organization without heirarchy. His work is pretty technical so I'd also recommend any of the episodes of the podcast General Intellect Unit that cover him as well as their one about the Viable System Model which is indirectly about him.

  • bananon [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You’re hired. Now get to the posting mines keyboard monkey.

  • iint [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i hope to one day draw horny furry art for a living so i never have to leave my house. if any rich chapos with very specific fetishes need wank material i am taking patron applications

  • ami [they/them,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    For real tho if anyone has any tips or can point me in the direction of getting a job working from home I'll uh... Idk what I'd do but I'd be really grateful and I would be your friend if you'd like thank you in advance

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Same way any modern company does - we just need one person on our board who is best mates with a government minister, then we get said minister to give our company gigantic contracts.

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Hell yeah. That kind of strategizing just bought you a COO gig. So which one of you communists knows a government minister?

        • Randomdog [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That's the best bit, our "guy with the contact" doesn't even need to be a communist, they just need to be someone we can bribe with mcdonalds and get them to think he's important.

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        I just saw something about it in the new Christopher Nolan movie. First we need a machine that makes time go backwards or something. I didn't pay close enough attention.

  • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In all seriousness, are there any ux web designers here? I know basic web flow design and fundamental web development, but I can’t design for shit, my brain doesn’t work that way. I’m learning full stack web dev right now, and when I’m ready to start looking for freelance work, it’d be cool to have a designer on deck that I could work on projects with.

    • Waldoz53 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      i'm bad at web design but i hate when website UIs are bad. does that count :(