she’d get replaced by someone worse (and thirty years younger…)
Or the rest of the Democrats would keep pushing Pelosi, and with no majority there would be no Speaker, and my understanding is that would grind Congress to a halt. At that point all public anger about congressional inaction would be laid at the feet of progressives.
It goes till they get a speaker. I think in the 20s they had a house speaker ship take 40+ ballots. Eventually some dem will become speaker and any dem is better than Pelosi.
They almost lost the house by the gop just running anti Pelosi ads. She is a huge negative.
I think in the 20s they had a house speaker ship take 40+ ballots.
Precedent from the 1920s is worth very little. I see no reason why they wouldn't just nominate Pelosi a few times, get no Speaker, and then sit on their hands and grandstand about how progressives are shutting down the government during a pandemic. Certainly no one is forcing them to keep voting at gunpoint.
any dem is better than Pelosi
As the comment above me pointed out, a Speaker who acts as Pelosi does but is 30 years younger and is less of a lightning rod would be worse.
First off. The next speaker will not stay as long as Pelosi. The party is in a death spiral mostly due to her poor leadership.
2nd. That's the rules on how the house operates. The speaker doesn't even have to be a member of the house. But they must have a speaker to operate and they will be under immense donor pressure to figure it out.
I mean I'm assuming we still have a functioning government that has been operating the same as it has when Republicans where picking speaker. So I think the rules matter as the empire still stands.
Speaker ship changes. Republicans have had squabbles over it.
"Rules matter" is a scorching hot take in 2021. They don't even have to break any rules in the scenario I outlined -- they can just do a few failed votes and then go to the media about it instead of locking themselves in a room and doing it all over again.
Or the rest of the Democrats would keep pushing Pelosi, and with no majority there would be no Speaker, and my understanding is that would grind Congress to a halt. At that point all public anger about congressional inaction would be laid at the feet of progressives.
Wrong
It goes till they get a speaker. I think in the 20s they had a house speaker ship take 40+ ballots. Eventually some dem will become speaker and any dem is better than Pelosi.
They almost lost the house by the gop just running anti Pelosi ads. She is a huge negative.
plenty are more conservative
ANY DEM IS Better. From a pure strategical standpoint any dem is better than Nancy. The country hates her more than trump.
ok from that point sure
Instead of force the vote I just want kick her out.
convince someone to run for Speaker
Brace for speaker!
Bill burr
Don't you think the propaganda machine will make your country hate the next speaker almost as much as Pelosi?
Precedent from the 1920s is worth very little. I see no reason why they wouldn't just nominate Pelosi a few times, get no Speaker, and then sit on their hands and grandstand about how progressives are shutting down the government during a pandemic. Certainly no one is forcing them to keep voting at gunpoint.
As the comment above me pointed out, a Speaker who acts as Pelosi does but is 30 years younger and is less of a lightning rod would be worse.
First off. The next speaker will not stay as long as Pelosi. The party is in a death spiral mostly due to her poor leadership.
2nd. That's the rules on how the house operates. The speaker doesn't even have to be a member of the house. But they must have a speaker to operate and they will be under immense donor pressure to figure it out.
And how much do the rules matter?
For all we know donors would be happy with a government shutdown that they could use to kneecap progressives.
I mean I'm assuming we still have a functioning government that has been operating the same as it has when Republicans where picking speaker. So I think the rules matter as the empire still stands.
Speaker ship changes. Republicans have had squabbles over it.
"Rules matter" is a scorching hot take in 2021. They don't even have to break any rules in the scenario I outlined -- they can just do a few failed votes and then go to the media about it instead of locking themselves in a room and doing it all over again.