I can't believe I gave these people money.

  • PhaseFour [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I have no idea what you are saying here.

    Which lie are you talking about?

    DSA created years of propaganda, and told everyone we don’t need to ask this question.

    I have seen this propaganda with my own eyes for years.

    So long as the bourgeoisie run society, we cannot afford M4A.

    I don't think this is a lie. The people cannot afford M4A. It must come as a concession from the bourgeoisie in the medical industry & the bourgeois state.

    No threshold number of Squad members in Congress which will change this fact.

    Again, this is true.

    The bourgeoisie own enough politicians to block progress on M4A if they want.

    If the Squad somehow got control of the House, Senate, & Presidency, and passed M4A against the will of the bourgeoisie (this will never happen) the bourgeoisie would retaliate by other means. This can take any number of forms,: withholding the circulation of Capital, shutting down hospitals, funding right-wing death squads, etc.

            • PhaseFour [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah... I can't believe I'm getting called a right-wing lying piece of shit for saying Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden are not passing a tax hike.

              Saying "taxes must be raised" is not the same as having a plan to pay for something.

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              We aren't talking past each other, they are spewing lies.

              The taxes are in the bill. The idea that paying for it hasn't been considered is an easily disproven lie. it's a complete fabrication.

              So no I'm not talking past anyone I'm explicitly calling another poster a liar for being a liar.

                • anthm17 [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Why are you willing to give a free pass to someone spewing neoliberal lies?

                  • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    God, people are so fucking disingenuous here.

                    "We should raise taxes on the wealthy" is not a serious plan to pay for M4A. It is useful propaganda. But it is not a plan. Socialists have organized around "we should raise taxes on the wealthy" for decades, and we are no where closer to M4A. Every single major impediment still exists.