• LeninsRage [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    All the cringe ass takes calling this a coup have no response to this. And all the people saying eye-rolling shit like "the pod said these guys wouldn't do anything im so fucking cool and contrarian"

    Yeah okay what if they occupied the Capitol building. Okay now fucking what? I guess the government has to surrender lol

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      If I'm the first person to declare the podcast wrong, then I become leader of the podcast website and everyone has to like my posts and tell me how right I was. That's how this works

    • anth [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Matt said they wouldn't do anything.

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        And they basically didn't. They went the fuck back home because they're cowards who don't know what the fuck they're doing.

        • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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          3 years ago

          now that their scattered its over. Short of trump accepting the mantle of chud revolution and leading another seige there isn't going to be a large scale effort like this again.

          At least until the next elections of course lol fuck Amerikkka just die already :amerikkka:

          • LeninsRage [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Like I remember the atmosphere when Charlottesville happened four years ago. Everyone thought it was the prelude to a fascist takeover, that they would get emboldened and escalate further. In reality and hindsight we now know it was the high-water mark of the fabled and feared "Alt Right". They fucking embarrassed themselves because they had no plan, they were just mindlessly following their Id, killed a woman, and got cowed by the backlash. Because that's precisely what they are, fucking cowards with no plan. The most spoiled and pampered fucking people in human history who throw a temper tantrum if they can't stuff their faces at the Cheesecake Factory and Fuddrucker's on a whim during a pandemic.

            This was Charlottesville as farce. They didn't even start shooting or kill anyone, one of their own was killed. They were routed by the slightest first whiff of tear gas. This was their last gasp. Like Matt said in his stream this evening once Biden gets inaugurated and nothing in their lives changes, they'll go back to their more reserved state of passive psychosis.

              • Spinoza [any]
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                3 years ago

                charlottesville was after maga was a thing

                  • read_freire [they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    You're def off.

                    Charlottesville was a maga spasm, and a high water mark at the time (this is higher and mostly the same crowd). But the normie magas put down their hats for a bit in shame afterwards...til people forgot.

                    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      It's a little different. The CHUDs who showed up at Charlottesville were mostly younger guys in literal Neo-Nazi orgs, terminally online 4chan Anons, basically all the youths who were genuinely emboldened by 2016 and thought they literally memed Trump into the Oval Office. They thought the MAGA upswell was their movement, tons of think pieces about the rise of the "Alt Rite" indundated the internet and airwaves throughout 2016 and 2017, etc. Charlottesville was their attempt to go mainstream, march in the streets, put a physical presence to what had until then been an almost entirely online movement restricted to epic meming and posting. It was their high-water mark. One of their leaders, whose name I don't even fucking remember anymore, went from a buff af self-confident gun-toting psycho to a blubbering wreck on camera about to get arrested by the cops, now known as "The Crying Nazi". Fucking Traditionalist Worker's Party literally destroyed itself because the leaders were cucking each other.

                      After Charlottesville the vaunted "Alt Right" was totally eclipsed by QAnon psychos. Boomers flocked to 4chan, 8chan, reddit, Facebook, etc. That's primarily who we've been seeing in eruptions since then, including today.

                      • read_freire [they/them]
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                        3 years ago

                        Yeah fair enough. There's enough overlap that I don't see them as separate but you're right about the distinct motivations and demographics for charlottesville vs qanon. Loved crying nazi at the time too. The only thing to add is that a shitload of em got doxxed and lost jobs, etc.

            • anth [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              now know it was the high-water mark

              3 years later and they took over the capitol today.

              If you asked Matt yesterday he would have said nothing would happen today.

              • LeninsRage [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                And accomplished what? Absolutely fucking nothing. At the end of the day they get to do this shit and go home because they aren't a real threat.

                Again, it should be abundantly fucking clear after today that these morons aren't the real threat. They're the cowardly cheerleaders of the real fascist stormtroopers, the police, and hide behind them accordingly every time they actually get threatened with consequences for their psychotic actions. When they can't hide behind them they retreat with their fucking tails between their legs.

                • rolly6cast [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  The mode of production shifted drastically today, power moved to the other faction of the capitalists today, we saw a great significan-

                  Oh, they milled around, one person tried to break down a door and was shot, and nothing else happened.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                They didn't even take over the capitol for a day...they were back in session by dinner time. The cops literally just opened the doors and welcomed them in. Their power lies with the police, and we're gonna see how that plays out.

                Given the history of police reform, I could see them continuing to grow as police forces just stop paying attention and allow them to get away with anything while brutally crushing anyone else.

                This issue is and always will be an abolitionist issue. It's the same fucking shit we were dealing with 160 years ago.

                • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  It's utterly wild how no pundits or politicians have talked about purging the security state. It's clearly FAR past time, and I have no idea what is holding ALL of them back (many of them, yes, we know they like it as it is).

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    The solution to like 50% of our domestic problems could be solved by gutting the police state and the alphabets. The other 50% could be solved with moving that money into the right places.

                    Bonus is that doing the first half necessitates the second half and also forces empire to pull back abroad

                  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    Because the national security state has been collaborating with the media for like four years to get Trump removed from office.

                    Talk about coup attempts, start with John Brennan, James Clapper, Christopher Steele, and MSNBC

                    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      more like forty to be honest, actually scratch that it might be almost a century now, since the first red scare really

                      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        I mean no shit the NatSec freaks collaborate with this one-party state that has two of them, but they haven't been this blatant about their displeasure with a President since I guess fucking Kennedy

                        • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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                          3 years ago

                          I think that's probably because they've internalised the two party system so they are now an additional form of normative institutional power, which is why they have both gone against Trump and failed to accomplish anything (at least not more than prior presidencies)

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            4 people died. Of whom 3 just croaked on their own because their heart was bursting with lard and butter already and they got a little too excited.

            They can't do a siege. The police fucking let them just non chalantly walk inside. That won't happen if something is actually threatened.