zelensky started purging them from the military
when did this happen?
edit: found a source here
NEVER, IT NEVER HAPPENED
Critical uuuuuh support for nazis willingly throwing themselves in the meat grinder.
Liberals have a grassroots process of extrapolating good/bad things based on vibes. Of course, the NYT won't publish report that Putin is trying to eradicate every Ukrainian, but he's a bad guy, so he must be.
Zelenskyy is a good guy, and he's Jewish, so he must have denazified the military, even if there's no source for these claims.
Once you notice this pattern you can find it everywhere, there's no critical thinking going on at all. Like Qanon there's a vibe, a (very stupid) utopian horizon, and any information at all is confirmation that the vibe is correct, Putin is losing, Ukraine is winning, bidenomics exists and is working and we're one proxy war away from the liberal internationale.
"Anything that can go well, will go well." As the popular lib bumper-sticker around here states
You could literally bring Hitler back from the dead and libs would argue that he's not a nazi.
"Well he is against smoking and is vegan and supports animal rights!"
Pretty sure I've even seen such a take already
Calling Hitler vegan is so gross. As if they're saying all the people killed in the Holocaust are less than animals.
You're right, though, there's a disturbing amount of Nazi apologism these days.
I always saw the myth that he was vegetarian as further condemnation on his views since he didn't even view the victims as animals. In reality he only sometimes did vegetarianism because he got gassy. All these defenses of him fall flat pretty fast with even mild education which is just extra depressing.
i thought his vegetarianism was mainly gobbling up snacks cos he was high as fuck
Homie was on meth a shit ton, I can't imagine he had much of an appetite.
"Never let perfection be the enemy of the good. He bravely fought those ruzzians"
he'd show up at the EU like "the migrant crisis now threatens to destroy european democracy" and they'd be like "hm damn okay let's hear him out."
Remember the legions of eurochuds who watched this and thought the message was “we need Hitler back”?
Average conservative media literacy.
There’s german satire movie where he comes back to life in modern day Germany with this premise lol
They'll just say Nazis weren't that bad like they're doing right now.
Have you ever seen the film 'look who's back'? Every day, it looks more and more like a documentary than a comedy.
Have you ever seen the film 'look who's talking now'? Every day, it looks more and more like a documentary than a comedy.
This is why education is so fucking important. Assuming this person is telling the truth, then they don't know what Nazi symbols look like. That's a failure of the education of their country to protect them from dangerous people.
It’s not a nazi symbol, it’s just the symbol US Marine Scout Snipers like a lot
Ask them if they'd be willing to go into a synagogue wearing those symbols
Meaningless. Ask a Jewish comrade if they deserve the wall and follow their recommendation.
Who gives a shit about whether a fascist is willing to self-identify. If a person willingly displays fascist iconography, the pit is where they belong.
sometimes people are just genuinely uneducated. good chance they really have no idea what those symbols mean.
I've known about these stupid nazi larp scribbles since being a metalhead in high school and learning about NSBM and how many nazis were infesting the metal scene was but yeah, I have to assume the average person isn't quite as familiar with silly magic nazi runes
It's been wild seeing these things popping up on more and more mainstream contexts
Usually when I’m uneducated and someone makes a claim, I do basic research to see if what they’re saying is bullshit. They have no excuse if they’re wasting time defending Ukraine on the internet. Especially since the clown knows enough propaganda talking points to claim that Zelensky purged Nazis
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In contemporary language, gaslighting
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I only hate
lingo because I used to type in it. At some point when I was using that site a lot, years ago, I realized how much that reddit language was making my comments more obnoxious and consciously tried to stop.One point suddenly it seemed like everybody was using ellipses in a specific way in comments, like "That was... not great." and it drove me nuts, thank you for reminding me how much nicer it is with less of those shit trends.
I really can't figure out how standing in front of a razed city counts as liberating the city.
This particular location was a single street with about 20 buildings on it before this. Now it's flat and entirely undefendable by either side so they just move in, take a picture then move back to an actually defendable position.
Bakhmut was basically rubble by the time Russia conquered it. This is the reality of peer to peer warfare in the modern age.
The video in question if anyone is looking for it. https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1703145764334006460
My Ukrainian isn't so good but did he just say "Slava ukraini, Slava nazi" Holy shit lol
So this is weird, but 'slava nazi' means 'glory to the nation' in Ukrainian. Like the word 'nation' in Ukrainian is literally 'nazi'.
Taken from Yandex:
Nation : нація [ sounds like nazi ]
Nazi : нацист [ sounds like nazist ]
So the whole 'idea of the nation' thing is really a dog whistle. Nation / Nationalist /Nazi all share the same root word in Ukrainian.
I'm not a Ukrainian linguist, but that seems a touch problematic, especially for political discourse in that language.
Kinda explains a lot how this glorification of nazi ideology has been perpetuated within the culture over decades. Their form of nationalism seems to be linguistically connected to nazism.
“Nazi” comes from a shortening of the German “Nationalsozialistische”. The “ti” is pronounced like a “z”. So “Nazi” comes from “National” and anywhere whose “National” sounds like “Nazional” is going to sound like “Nazi” to a non-native speaker. I’m sure “national” is a common loan word in Europe. This guy is probably a Nazi not because of some linguistic connection between “national” and “Nazi” but because he’s a Ukrainian nationalist.
I just think the linguistic aspect makes any discussion of 'nationalism' almost inseparable from Nazi ideology in languages like this. It's inherently normalized because there's not a clear distinction as far as I can tell. There's not really a way to talk about nation / nationalism that doesn't carry Nazi linguistic baggage with it. I'm not saying this excuses anything, just that apologia for nazi ideology is linguistically embedded. The word for nazis is basically 'nationist'. So wanting to protect your nation puts you in the same linguistic terminology.
It's kinda like how 'Patriot' is pretty sus jingoist term in the USA. It has a technically benign meaning, but it is often used as a dog whistle. Like we all know what is meant by 'Patriot Front' for instance.
I think that nationalism has Nazi baggage because in practice it is always part of the root of Nazism if not merely a euphemism for it. That's how it always turns out in practice. That nationalism sounds like "Nazi" isn't what gives it Nazi qualities, and the reason they sound similar is because the Nazi party was technically the "National" party and their opponents gave them that name. The Nazis were the first to link euro-nationalism with Nazism and they've been married ever since. That the words themselves are semi-related is really a tangential point. It's the history that makes nationalism Nazi, the linguistics merely reflect that.
Besides, "nation" is used all the time by non-Nazis in neutral ways. I think "they're the same thing because the words sound like each other" is edging dangerously close to "umm they were National SOCIALISTS."
Obviously Ukrainian nationalists are Nazis. But this kind of semantics ain't it. Nationalism and Nazism are linked through ideology and cannot be separated because of this link (especially in Eastern Europe). Every time some Ukrainian pipes up with their totally non-Nazi "nationalist advocacy group" it's always going to be tainted by the legacy of their sacred cow Bandera. Ukrainian nationalism will always immediately trigger alarm bells in anyone with a functioning frontal lobe because Ukrainian nationalism is Nazism. The Ukrainians might not like that but they can thank their "patriotic heroes" Bandera and co. Linguistically, it's a curious etymology case study.
Ya, linguistically this isn't too far off from 'white' supremacy. Whiteness and the color white being a representation of purity, cleanliness, angels etc as being related to racist characteristics. Linguistics do indeed be a fuck sometimes.
Brenton Tarrant was just an early supporter of Ukrainian independence, and he was prosecuted by the pro-Putin New Zealand authorities
