How the fuck can you people support this shit?

What the fuck is wrong with your brains if you think this is okay?

And you can't go with the "CIA is faking it all" cope this is straight up China admitting they're sterilizing Uighur women. Like why would anyone want to join a movement where this is defended

  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Radio war nerd did several good episodes on the topi, that go into a little more detail and nuance. Obviously the situation isnt as bad as western media portrays it, but it's also very far from the picture China stans here provide.

    I personally wonder about the fine line between educating people, liberating women etc. and erasing their traditional culture. The two seem a little contradictory goals to me. On one hand traditional cultures are often kinda pretty bad, on the other - forcing entire populations to adopt your language and do things your way, ain't exactly good either.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I agree. It is definitely not as bad as the U.S. says it is, but I do think that the culture might be being oppressed. I would be more critical of China if the U.S. wasn't sending money to destabilize the region.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I personally wonder about the fine line between educating people, liberating women etc. and erasing their traditional culture. The two seem a little contradictory goals to me. On one hand traditional cultures are often kinda pretty bad, on the other - forcing entire populations to adopt your language and do things your way, ain’t exactly good either.

      So tangent: should leftists skew more towards cultural relativism or moral absolutism?

      Does respect for traditional cultures end if they cross lines? Who paints those lines?

      If there's a proletarian revolution which then decides to not recognize gay rights, where does that leave us?

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Sweaty...we have to preserve culture. When the revolution comes to America, it's important to preserve the longstanding and accepted rape culture that exists there because that's part of their heritage.

    • Jerb [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      "On one hand traditional cultures are often kinda pretty bad, on the other murdering, raping, and plaguing millions of native americans, ain’t exactly good either."

      Le both sides have some solid points take has arrived

      • rozako [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        As someone who tries to defend China a lot, your comment made me think a bit deeper about the subject by you drawing this comparison to my own words. It definitely has some parallels for sure. Thank you for rec’ing my post and getting me to think from a different pov too!