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Honest question as apparently I'm out of the loop -- why is discord bad? Is it because of the g*mers or is there another reason?
It's mostly justified through features, but the Discord desktop program has access to:
- Everything you type, even when the window is minimised
- The contents of your screen
- Your camera
- Your microphone
- The list of programs you're running, which it sends to their servers every few minutes
- Your documents
- Your IP address
Which could up to a point be tolerated, if it wasn't that Discord is part of the MUSCULAR programme of the NSA and Discord's (non-EU) privacy policy explicitly states they can send any and all information to their "partners" which may or may not store it for all eternity.
Of course they are. They basically took what was a decentralized, open source, encrypted (through TLS) protocol with many self-hosted servers it was hard to listen on (IRC), introduced some new features, and centralized all of it on private servers that can be accessed by intelligence agencies. They know a federated alternative is a big risk eventually.
On a browser you've got a lot more control on what information you give to the websites. So from that list, they can only see your IP address without there being an obvious indicator and/or a permissions prompt. I don't know if there are Facebook or Google trackers on web Discord, but if there are, any ad blocker can block them.
There are missing features, they don't put nearly as much optimization work to the web version so it's slower and voice chat is laggy, I suppose it works out for them because they'd much rather you'd use the desktop application.
Personally, for a community larger than say, fifty people, a Discord server just starts to feel incredibly impersonal, and feels like it demands constant attention in order to partake in conversations.
huh you've summed up why I've always hated the "join our discord server!" requests from communities I participate in. I cannot stand the multiple channels, constant stream of posts/notifications.
Oh! Yeah completely understand that. I'm on quite a few hobby servers, but I always end up just lurking because it feels like the same few people drive conversations and at that point you're just on the outside looking in anyway.
beyond a certain number of users it moves too fast and becomes a deluge of shit
silicon valley's ability to surveil and terminate communications at their discretion or that of law enforcement would be worrying to the left if we had any communications worth surveilling or terminating.
i mean it's not because one of us was gonna [parody] a courthouse, that's for sure
We need to start cancelling eachother using more secure communications.
I'd like to think that every hour they spend trying to figure out what the fuck a "down bear" is is one less hour they could have used to hack Venezuelan power systems.
This really should get admins thinking about how resistant to deplatforming we are here though. Who they're hosting with, who their name registrar is and if they'll fold at the first mention of the fact people here cheer violence against landlords and deny US atrocity propaganda re:China as well as the fact we're anti-US communists in here. I would really try and prioritize incorporating through an offshore company or otherwise obfuscating links between whoever is point of contact legally speaking for this website and the website. Because outside of that, well they could get an angry visit from the feds trying to intimidate them or worse.
I wouldn't say we need bulletproof hosting, but something bullet-resistant wouldn't hurt, e.g. incorporation outside the legal jurisdiction of the US and her pawn nations (Eyes countries are right out), registrar outside the US and same. Hosting is trickier given latency with overseas but you can move hosting easier than you can move names and there are companies that care less if the feds come raging and crying to their door than others.
Last update we had from Beatnik is that we're hosting outside of the US and Five Eyes, but in a Fourteen Eyes country (France), and that there's a regular backup to somewhere outside of Fourteen Eyes country (not disclosed).
So if a three letter agency wanted to take us out they'd have to go through a lot of inconvenient channels and we'd probably be back up in a few hours.
France is fairly notorious for being somewhat stubborn with complying with the US and having somewhat stricter laws so that's better than most 14 eyes countries. Most US legal requests are invalid for entities outside the US so they'd probably drop the process at the point they discover where the hosting is.
Wow they are getting purged left and right. They must be going insane right now
Too bad Usenet died.
I would've loved to see this shit play out on Usenet.
This comment inspired me to figure out how to get onto Usenet and see how dead it is. Answer: pretty dead, although alt.politics.trump is really active because of course.
Godlikeproductions another chuddy site also going wild.
Enough time passes and it'll be our turn on the neolib wheel of censorship. I got banned from discord for being in a piracy server and that's when I knew it was no good.
It's 100% taking cues for the most part. There might be some discussion of it among them but there's also this, no one wants to be the last company leaving up stuff that led to a terror incident and getting the bad press from it which is only magnified by the fact everyone else took this stuff down and your company didn't.
Would be good to keep track of where these losers migrate to. Deplatforming is an excellent step, but I like to keep tabs on what the Q heads are saying.
This is a wonderful victory in the culture war. Deplatforming works.
The further they're chased from the mainstream, the harder it is to grow (or even remain the same size).
I guess the big one left is youtube and its robust alt right pipeline algorithm. It's not like that many boomers will be keen to navigate tor and stuff
Probably not coordinated, they all just don't want to be the one place left holding the ball when they all plot to assassinate Biden or whatever.
