“Just reaffirmed the need for economical populism to win electoral victories”

So basically a tucker Carlson-esque grift to lure the rubes in. So much for moving Magas to the left.

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Also why are they angry at menslib again? It's usually pretty wholesome, inoffensive and non confrontational. It's also literally what some of these people pretended to be complaining about, "but why aren't feminists talking about men's issues?". Well there you fucking go, they are.

    • sappho [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      If you base your whole identity around conforming to society's idea of masculinity, it's quite destabilizing to see any critique of that. So the very idea is "deranged" and what we really need is more "paternalism"

      • Drewfro [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Most likely they're referring to /r/MensLib, which is the subreddit for the Mens' Liberation movement. Essentially it's "Mens' Rights but not just fashy whataboutism".

        There are some legitimate complaints about how discourse on /r/MensLib can tend towards self-flagellative virtue signaling despite aiming to be a male-positive space. It is, on the whole, however, Cool and Good. Most people who complain about it are just incapable of understanding that the basis of male oppression is in the same toxic-masculine and patriarchal social norms that harm women.

  • cosecantphi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i do not understand this new trend of adding -oid to the end of everything they don't like

    • neebay [any,undecided]
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      4 years ago

      I've been irritated lately seeing more non-leftists using the term "leftoid" as if it's just a more insulting way of saying leftist, without realizing it makes it sound like they're attacking someone for not being leftist enough

      • cosecantphi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Luckily it outs whoever said it as being way too extremely online to regard their opinions with any relevance to the real world. Also it's gotta be incels, right? Like when they call women "femoids"

    • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      It's fascist. Seems to me like adding -oid to something goes back to race science and general fascist essentialism.

      It echoes the language that was used to categorize groups of people as if they were a "race" or had some innate/biological part that made them that way. the suffix -oid implies a resemblance to something that came before (so there is some sense of heredity or something genetic/biological), but it's an incomplete or degenerated resemblance, words with this kind of suffix seem to be an even more insulting way of describing a person or group : implying they are part of an essentialised stereotypical group that's degenerating and is inferior.

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Given a lot of the Edgelord diaspora tracks back to 4chan at some point it’s probably from “femoid” being used to disparage women and then they just appropriated it for other groups

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Gotta add in a hint of old timey racism and phrenology somehow.

  • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Nah I've definitely seen them 100% move dudebro's economically, at least, left. There is just a demographic of people that want to be shitty edgelords. It's an audience of people we can't reach.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      sees chuds organizing a big better capitol storm with real targets and organization

      Wait, was this actually happening?

      • ahnsimo [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yep.

        On the one hand, these groups have been borderline-hilariously incompetent thus far. On the other hand, it wouldn't take that much to cause serious chaos. I guess we'll see how this plays out.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    stupidpol is unrepentant chanlords whove discovered getting NEETbux through UBI is technically a "left" position

  • Perplexiglass [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    lol imagine browsing through a subreddit you hate, reading through a bunch of posts and comments and cherry-picking one of the dumbest ones to wrap up into a weird narrative.

    "Why do you keep hitting yourself?!"

    Feel free to link the thread next time, where most of the answers breed optimism.