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  • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    counterpoint: there's no ethical consumption under capitalism and it's only "Sex Bad" anglo brain that makes you think this

    • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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      3 years ago

      Porn is banned in china and japan has those weird rules about censoring. Kinda a big hole in your anglo theory... I hate that you made me defend anglos btw

      • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I guess it's not exclusive, I think this is a good explanation of what I was getting at from Thinking Sex by Rubin:

        What I call the fallacy of misplaced scale is a corollary of sex negativity. Susan Sontag once commented that since Christianity focused ‘on sexual behaviour as the root of virtue, everything pertaining to sex has been a “special case” in our culture’ (Sontag, 1969, p. 46). Sex law has incorporated the religious attitude that heretical sex is an especially heinous sin that deserves the harshest punishments. Throughout much of European and American history, a single act of consensual anal penetration was grounds for execution. In some states, sodomy still carries twenty-year prison sentences. Outside the law, sex is also a marked category. Small differences in value or behaviour are often experienced as cosmic threats. Although people can be intolerant, silly, or pushy about what constitutes proper diet, differences in menu rarely provoke the kinds of rage, anxiety, and sheer terror that routinely accompany differences in erotic taste. Sexual acts are burdened with an excess of significance.

        and just bc I love this text, this is what sex negativity is:

        Of these five, the most important is sex negativity. Western cultures generally consider sex to be a dangerous, destructive, negative force (Weeks, 1981, p. 22). Most Christian tradition, following Paul, holds that sex is inherently sinful. It may be redeemed if performed within marriage for procreative purposes and if the pleasurable aspects are not enjoyed too much. In turn, this idea rests on the assumption that the genitalia are an intrinsically inferior part of the body, much lower and less holy than the mind, the ‘soul’, the ‘heart’, or even the upper part of the digestive system (the status of the excretory organs is close to that of the genitalia). Such notions have by now acquired a life of their own and no longer depend solely on religion for their perseverance.

  • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Depends on your definition of porn. Exhibitionist posting stuff because they get turned on by the fact strangers are getting off to them seems perfectly ethical to me. Not sure if that fits your definition of porn though being it's not created to make money.

  • disco [any]
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    3 years ago

    counterpoint: videos uploaded anonymously by people alone in their bedrooms. Which is fortunately the only kind I care about anyway.

  • polonez [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I like rough sex, can I still beat women, consensually off course, during sex or even if the act is consensual, does it still support patriarchal attitudes.

      • machiabelly [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        It's still consensual. We have to trust people to come to their own decisions. I think there is an expectation that women will be submissive towards men and a general cultural attitude that men are more attracted to submissive women, which are big issues. What people do in their own home with consenting adults is their business.

          • machiabelly [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            You're in good company. We can go to the tether ball area and play in parallel on seperate tether balls. Maybe we'll get left alone for the whole lunch. Anyway, that is about as unsurprising as unsurprising gets. You mean to tell me that lesbian bottoms aren't the scourge of the bdsm community??? Just some harmless cis het dudes?