I'm only on the second episode but so far I'm digging it

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I was happy to see that the Haitian revolution was shown and was stated to be based as Hell and that slaveowners are fucking vampires needing slaying.

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      My favorite part of all gothic vampire media is that southern slaveowners are always blood sucking vampires who need to be S L A Y E D

      • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Dude from True Blood was a confederate soldier. Plenty of vampire stories embrace the antebellum south aesthetic. Not good ones, mind you. But they exist

  • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    It is the sjw show all the chuds warned us about and it is just as rad as they said it would be.

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yep there's new black characters introduced in the first episode in a show about Europe and they yassified Orlox. It's almost perfectly Lab grown focus tested made to repulse your average fash. It's pretty good but it suffers a bit from the cringe dialogue problem part 1 had

      • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        It's true and it's great. Even as a super white cis guy it is nice to see things diffrent than normal. If we were to say this is diversity for the sake of diversity like chuds claim it is still amazing. From a completely treat brained perspective it gives me new and different things to look at. That fact that it is genuinely interesting and cool is separate to that.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    That's pretty awesome.

    It's nice for a dark, even grim setting to be less afraid of saying something other than "yeah this world sucks, everything is futile, attempts to change it are naive and doomed to fail, pick your favorite asshole and stan for them."

    I think I'll enjoy it.

    • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      There is specifically a character who says that specifically he gets wildly owned. Subtext is for cowards

  • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Is the series as a whole actually good? I feel like most "adult" cartoons just have characters say fuck a lot and rely on gratuitous violence.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      It's good, has good drama and plot (it'd also not a comedy) and isn't at all like most western comedy cartoons geared towards adults.

      • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Alright that sounds promising. I was worried it would be filled with Whedonisms.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      1 year ago

      They do say fuck a lot and there is a ton of gratuitous violence, but there is actually some pretty damn good characterization and stories going on too behind all that, particularly with Dracula and some of his minions in the first series.

      Since this new series is just on its first season it hasnt really hit the same marks in terms of story, but the flashbacks set in the Haitian revolution are still really effective.

      • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah as long as the story is actually good I don't mind it at all.

    • StalinwasaGryffindor [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The series really captures the feeling of playing dnd if that makes sense? Like the quips and reactions remind me of the interactions the players have. Also if you’ve played any of the castlevania games you’ll be like leo-point a bunch as there’s a lot of classic monsters and bosses

  • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    A new Castelvania series? I had no idea. Liked the first show quite a bit, as someone who isn't a huge animation guy.

    I've cancelled my Netflix sub so I'll be stealing this one, but eager to check it out when I get a chance.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    My only real gripe with it so far is really a matter of personal taste but I'm just a bit tired of vampire-human collaboration plots being like "Lmao these dumbass moron humans are so dumb they think they're on the team."

    It's nice and simple yeah but I just think it would be neat if there was a plot where its not like the human collaborators are either personally enthralled or being completely rused by the vampires. I don't think it hits that hard when the ruling class/collaborators are also going to be victims of the vampires.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      1 year ago
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      My favorite moment is probably Richter bullshitting about how magic is fancy and cool but good ol fashioned skill and practice with normal weapons works fine for him thank you very much, and then he gets his magic back and its a comically huge power boost to him, absolutely night and day between how useful he is with and without magic.

      Really loving the magic overall, Sypha had some of the coolest stuff in the original show so Im happy there's even more here, and so many different styles of it.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Ngl I liked that subplot as an example of capital/old power structures siding with fascism/empire to preserve itself during a revolution

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        1 year ago

        It's definitely a good concept, I just feel like it skews a bit much into the old power structures being oblivious/irrational about the consequences rather than a more calculated and deliberate evil.

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  • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Eh. I've liked it so far (episode 3) but I felt it ground to a halt to explicitly tell Annette's back story when her just being a black woman from Haiti in a world where literal vampires exist made it all pretty apparent. I just think the story would have been stronger if that had been left to the viewers imagination. I feel like the series so far doesn't trust or respect its audience enough not hold our hand for everything.

    Vampire vs humans as an analog to dialectical materialism is baked into the setting, you don't have to be so on the nose with it

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Honestly I liked her plot and origin I just feel it should have been allowed to cook a bit longer and not be rushed out so quick, overall though yeah quite a bit of stuff is said instead of just shown in typical anime fashion.

      • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah that's a good way to put it. Its like, first episode introduces Richter and Maria you get to see them interact a little bit, some character motivation is provided but the story is moving along pretty smoothly. Then, shortly after Annette and Edouard are introduced we spend an entire episode telling you her life story. I just feel they could have drip fed that more, let us get to know the character more organically

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah, they know its gonna be shat out as one brick by netflix anyways so its not like they have to be anxious about leaving too much of a gap between episodes airing/releasing.

          • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Exactly. Its just rough pacing for something you know people will be binging. I think their ideas are great and portraying colonialism and the french aristocracy as vampirism is cool but while I'm not finished yet and I'll reserve judgement, I'm getting the impression that the talent of the writers doesn't really match the ambition of the story they want to tell.

            Also, not in love with

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            Elizabeth Bathory being the monster. I think that's disputed. Gilles De Rais or some such would have been better


            • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              They wanted to have an evil queen. The art is Hella giving 2014 and it is amazing. Plus I am pretty sure they reuse design elements from sailor moon in her character

  • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    It's really good, even if the very revolutionary character is shown in such a way that the other characters and the audience are meant to toll their eyes and say "oh look she's so silly"

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Was legit worried it was going to pull a centrism or some shit but nah turns out the church is in league with vampires/fascist capital to preserve the status quo which was nice compared to being all "oh nooo... the revolution is too violent!".

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    does it have the skeletons on motorbikes

    also for literal vampires you could check out El Conde, about Pinochet being a literal vampire. I didn't actually like it.

    It's from the son of two of the richest and powerful families in Chile, both of which backed Pinochet, and it is as politically removed as possible, really. In a similar vein to Larrain's other film 'No' about a marketing campaign being a core piece of getting rid of Pinochets government.

    Like, it's doesn't seem politically removed because it does go into some of the atrocities, and it mentions Thatcher and all that - but it's still like a movie that says 'Hitler is bad, here's what he did' without ever actually saying why he did those things and who let him get away with it.