Have heart, comrades
Yeah seeing this post mixed with the other post about the users elderly relatives saying they don't believe in democracy anymore is giving me what you might call "bad vibes".
I've been hearing that for like 15 years, and 15 years ago when I was a young teenager and a little chud I was saying that myself. Part of my wants to say "no, chuds just say that," but I also think we have reached the point of decline in the empire where it could actually happen.
I just don't see it. Civil war over what? Cultural issues? Both parties are owned by the corporations and capitalists.
I don't think we are there yet because the left doesn't pose enough of a threat to capital for them to put fascists into power, but there are a lot of things that I would consider warning signs.
Sure there are warning signs, but until we have economic issues mirroring cultural I just don't see how it would happen. Maybe if the exurbs become tax free havens and the cities are punished, but again that would hurt da stonks.
We just saw quickly industry will come down on politicians that step out of line. Trump passed the massive tax bill and what is his thanks? The titans of industry won't even let him have a little coup, as a treat. Sad.
It Could Happen Here is an essential listen for any American, imo. Civil War 2 always sounds ridiculous upon first hearing it, but then you look at places like Syria, and with convincing arguments, I can definitely see us going down that path in the next few years.
It won’t be Democrats vs Republicans, or liberals vs conservatives. It could start with right wing attacks on highway infrastructure, or city blocks being seized by Nazi groups. Then you get leftist defense groups, followed by clashes between different factions.
you also get them when 13-16 year olds leave their nazi phase too fast
I don't think most do. For most, it's whatever aesthetics they think are cool plus whatever group they find some measure of acceptance in, all heavily filtered by the context of their parents' politics and what they think of their parents.
I'm sure there are some really well-read and thoughtful 16-year-olds out there, but that's not the median.
there's really no opportunities to volunteer as 13, nor much use in reading marx that young tbh
based, i did some, but I couldn't find any secular charities or mutual aid orgs that would let me participate. was all religious stuff
Wondering if the only way to get you to read Marx would be via the alphabet soup edition of Capital.
Eh I honestly don't think the average grown adult is much more politically educated than the average teen at least today
They probably haven't read much more political theory, but they likely know more about the world in general and are likely more committed to whatever they've chosen to believe.
i've literally changed boomers' whole ideologies by messing with their facebook feeds
I'm not saying old people are set in their ways permanently and young people aren't; I'm saying old people are more set in their ways. I'm betting it's easier for people to write off stuff they believed in at 15 as a phase than it is for them to write off a decade or two of adult political activity as wrong.
playing in scene bands and getting plastered
See, theres your issue; a lot of us didn't talk to people or go outside, so you may as well read about the economy (or, in these guys' cases, about ethnic cleansing or whatever, i guess).
I remember there being a fair bit of "received wisdom" when I was skirting that chud lite phase of my youth.
I get everyone pinging on the free market comment, but the realization that the pigs don't give a fuck about you, thin blue line flag or not, is fascinating to me. Like, just because I love Shark Week doesn't mean Jaws isn't going to fucking eat me if its dinner time and I happen to be trying to catch a wave.
The city cops put on the kids gloves for these Revolutionary Tourists and they thought it was their due.
But after the FBI realized their jobs and funding were on the line, they actually got off their asses and made some high profile arrests.
This was not anticipated by the Brain Trust that was QAnon.
> the cops we thought we were defending... are shooting us
this is /leftypol/ doing a bit. no chud is this self aware.
Yeah the fact they said leftist and liberals rather than using them as a synonym really gives it away
Honestly this whole thing reads like troll bait.
Actual reflection.
Betrayed by the pigs.
Some pointed racism.
defeatist attitude.
Incorrect terminology for lefties.Reads like it's designed to piss off both fash & Antifa.
/b/ trollin' /b/.
"Finally discovered the free market doesn't actually work." I love how through all of the Friedmanite economics of the last forty years not a single one of the rightoids thought to themselves "hey what if the insufferable shitlibs get control of all of these goliath corporations we're creating?" It really is the greatest long term self own of all time.
It really is the greatest long term self own of all time.
"You culturally Marxist leftists are far too university educated, way too academically involved!"
"Huh? Why are all the new and advanced things owned by libs?"
Yeah who could have thought chud brains would get completely out maneuvered in an information economy? Seethe. Cope.
"shooting us like we're brown" damn, it must really suck to be treated like a minority by cops
if only there was some sort of movement that wanted to change how awful cops treat minorities :thonk:
if only there was some sort of movement that wanted to change how awful cops treat minorities
"No no no! We're fine with the way cops treat minorities, it's us they're not supposed to treat that way!"
When white people are shot unjustly by cops, blm groups are the usually the most vocal about it
Every time they treat left and lib like they're the same thing I die a little inside.
I think one of the biggest challenges facing the left is that people think left=dems when in reality the dems are just capitalists with a prettier dress.
I mean, do you generally care to distinguish between literal nazis and "moderate republicans" when you talk about right-wingers? I'm sure they are disgruntled when you don't understand which particular sort of reactionary they are.
so we sometimes fail to distinguish between right-wing and far-right, but they almost always fail to distinguish far-left, left, and center-right
Yeah, I've seen people say "I'm not a white supremacist, I'm a white nationalist!" on rw forums
Those are both right-wing at least. Libs aren't even left wing.
I mean moderate republicans are very cool with actual nazis. You don't see democrats shmoozing with actual communists/socialists or, god forbid, anarchists but you see all parts of the right wing do so with fascists and fascist states lol
Not really a fair comparison.
Even Jerry Falwell Jr. is a literal cuck
Nobody has ever given half a runny shit about Falwell Jr. This can't be real
You're laughing. Fascists have started facing consequences, and you're laughing.
Be afraid of the chud who knows and cares for the distinction between left and libs.