Like, who the fuck do you think gave this asshole the Patriot Act and ICE? Who got the US into the two longest wars this century? Who started to fuck up the response to the GFC?

Libs really have no fucking clue why Trump even got into power in the first place.

  • longhorn617 [any]
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    4 years ago

    "Liberals are like dogs, they only hear tone."

    --Amber

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    "Who's worse" is a silly discussion because both are awful. It's more informative to get into a qualitative discussion of how each one was awful. History isn't a video game, and there's no high score.

    • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      Yeah, this I can agree with, I think it just pissed me off to see people effectively waving off Bush as not as bad — which I guess makes sense if one understands the question as "who has been worse for you personally?".

  • Concured [she/her]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    Depends in how big the death toll from the iraq war is vs what the death eventual death toll (over 400,000 atm) from a shit covid response is going to be imo. Anything else is just window dressing.

    But hey Trump didn't make you go through another security gate in the airport so who's really more evil huh

    • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I think you'd also have to account for the deaths in Afghanistan, the numerous terrorist orgs that were bolstered by the distabilising of both countries, and the thousands displaced too. Obviously Trump is fucked, and I would say he probably internally fucked the US with COVID alone, but he is a symptom of systemic problems Bush helped lay the groundwork for.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      4 years ago

      Its gonna have to be like twice the amount of deaths from covid compared to the murder and slaughter of at least a million people in another country.

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Bush would have also mismanaged COVID, the only difference is that instead of getting people to drink bleach he would have supported think tanks saying that.

  • CALM_ORGANIZER_BOT [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Have the chuds taken over this place? All this Trump apologia. They play for the same bullshit team, different era.

    • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I'm not apologising for Trump, fuck him, my issue is with reducing the Bush era's atrocities because Trump is the current moment's shit stain. Bush and in some areas Obama created the backdrop for Trump to walk in and take power.

    • Moosegender [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Once the rest of trans comrades leaves, this place will become completely reactionary.