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    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      It's even more insufferable when the "perfect" they refer to is like, the barest minimum acceptable policy positions and the "good" is just actively being an evil bastard and willfully doing significant harm both actively and through negligence, but maybe it's a degree or two less malevolent than what their good friends and brunch-mates in the GOP want to do.

      It's like the left is begging them to stop supporting ethnic cleansing and imperial atrocities and they're just like "nope, sorry sweaty, the best we can do is continuing to do all of those things but with dIvErSe MeRiToCrAtIc systems that do them more efficiently, and a PR department that says the right things instead of those same things but slightly meaner!"

            • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              A lot of that probably comes with being the superpower. I'll usually hear about how other countries are much worse off and everybody wants to come to the US as a sort of rebuttal. Wasn't the UK in a similar situation until after WWII and being humiliated by the US at Suez? I feel like the US losing its superpower status may be what finally forces mild social democracy into the country.

              • emizeko [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                after WWII Attlee did the NHS but Suez wasn't until 1956

  • jilgangga [doe/deer]
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    4 years ago

    Even more horrid creatures are libs in academia, whose go-to argument is “trying to change something always ironically turns you into that thing in the end. Ah ain’t I so smart.”

      • jilgangga [doe/deer]
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        4 years ago

        Or “I hope Bernie doesn’t end up undermining her this time like he did to Hillary.” Or “It’s not Liz — it’s Senator Warren for you.”

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It's always a treat how they try to eat their cake and have it too whenever you bring up the American Revolution after that fact. Like they're low-key admitting that the "Revolution" didn't fundamentally change power structures.

      Nevermind all the revolutions in history that did achieve actual change, gotta keep the masses docile

      • jilgangga [doe/deer]
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        4 years ago

        Indeed indeed — and then in the next breath they’d be like “we need to decolonize!” which is their newest corporatist radlib way of saying “diversity and inclusion” (to the point that some actual indigenous activists wrote an article entitled “Decolonization is not a metaphor,” which they all hate cuz it calls their bluff)

      • jilgangga [doe/deer]
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        4 years ago

        Hahahahah ... but see they have invented a term for it, “literary truths.” And people wonder why Harry Potter is now pOLiTiCaL tHeOrY 🤣

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "Sure, you may have centuries of history demonstrating the nature of political power and workings of capitalism, but have you considered [grossly oversimplified hypothetical completely divorced from material reality]?"

  • Civility [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Amen.

    Stalin's USSR wasn't perfect but hot damn if it wasn't better than what came before and after.

  • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    That's why it's better to just not. I've just figured this out recently tbh and my mental has been way better.

    Fortunately or unfortunately nothing you or I can say online will ever influence policy or politicians in any meaningful way. Arguing with politically involved people online only extremely rarely changes anyone online.

    Just say fuck it and laugh to yourself then bitch about it here. Makes things much better stress wise.

    • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Fuckin' aye, right. You might get some traction with family and friends IRL but arguing online with strangers? Fucking forget it. You can't argue with mental giants who think the winning strategy is to play like the Washington Generals.

    • ultraviolet [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      God I fucking hate this mentality. They'll spend 10 hours debunking some dumb shit right wingers says to look "smart and rational" and won't bother to understand the bigger picture or why people end up supporting these ideas.

  • worker_democracy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This country is the Titanic. 3rd class passengers are drowning, 2nd class passengers are knee deep, and the 1st classers are stealing all the lifeboats, even the empty ones. And here comes the New Captain who acknowledges the ship is sinking and recommends one boy with a bucket bale water from the engine rooms. ... Somebody points out this will do nothing.

    “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good”

  • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    They have no idea how many of you are compromising on your desire to throw a few folks into a mineshaft.

  • AndresBonapaqyou [any]
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    4 years ago

    This is why I wished I had amazing photogenic memory so I can dunk on libs with historical facts.