He was either misogynistic/anti-semitic or an edgelord doing bad irony (in the aughts 4chan kinda way), it's unclear.
Then he got syphilis and went insane and his sister took all his unfinished posts and edited them into will to power which was the actual protofash shit. Gamergate era 4chan, continuing the analogy.
Nietzsche was explicitly anti-anti-Semitic, anti-nationalist. His sister was anti-Semitic, so she edited his work after his death to get her views out. This has tarnished his reputation since.
He also probably never had syphilis - it's just one explanation for why he went mad later in life because syphilis was a common thing at the time, but there's no evidence for it. (The same is said of Lenin and Hitler, with even less ground.)
Nietzsche's other views could be described as quasi/proto-fascist, but only in extremely general terms - he was anti-Christian, anti-democratic, praising the strong and condemning the weak for being weak. But he also said a lot of stuff ironically and was critical of everything and everyone. He didn't have a political philosophy as such - he wasn't endorsing a political program, just shitposting about the world.
Smart and insightful dude, not someone you can pigeonhole, but also an asshole who didn't believe in any bright future for most people.
Lol nietzsche isn't theory but this would be like linking to a 15 minute youtube about how bill murray's character in groundhog day is a marxist cause he hates women so much and saying something about marx being a protosexist.
IDGAF about the departed and whether jack nicholsons character is an ubermensch or something
Does anyone on here actually read shit
Nietzsche equally inspired Hitler and Sartre, but the former only happened with careful posthumous editing of unpublished writing by his actually protofash sister.
I dunno, ask, like, the myriads of leftist theoreticians who have done so and have found certain things of value in Nietzsche. Not saying you should read him, but as someone else said, if you haven't read something and know next to nothing about it, you shouldn't just go off based on a random YouTube video, especially when that something is an extremely influential philosopher who has also influenced in various ways a large number of leftist theorists. Nietzsche isn't just some random fash and it's very oversimplified to say he influenced Nazis (and also really not his fault). Condensing the entirety of someone's massive and influential work into a 15 minute video that isn't even about his philosophy per se isn't great.
I mean, we're fighting fascism right, why shouldn't we try to understand its philosophy?
It's easier to fight an enemy when you know how they think.
edit: and to be clear, I don't actually think Nietzsche was a fascist himself, although ultimately I don't think his philosophy is particularly valuable.
Wasn't Neitzche like super protofash?
Nah that was his sister.
He was either misogynistic/anti-semitic or an edgelord doing bad irony (in the aughts 4chan kinda way), it's unclear.
Then he got syphilis and went insane and his sister took all his unfinished posts and edited them into will to power which was the actual protofash shit. Gamergate era 4chan, continuing the analogy.
Nietzsche was explicitly anti-anti-Semitic, anti-nationalist. His sister was anti-Semitic, so she edited his work after his death to get her views out. This has tarnished his reputation since.
He also probably never had syphilis - it's just one explanation for why he went mad later in life because syphilis was a common thing at the time, but there's no evidence for it. (The same is said of Lenin and Hitler, with even less ground.)
Nietzsche's other views could be described as quasi/proto-fascist, but only in extremely general terms - he was anti-Christian, anti-democratic, praising the strong and condemning the weak for being weak. But he also said a lot of stuff ironically and was critical of everything and everyone. He didn't have a political philosophy as such - he wasn't endorsing a political program, just shitposting about the world.
Smart and insightful dude, not someone you can pigeonhole, but also an asshole who didn't believe in any bright future for most people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B8J7JCkzd0
Idk he seems pretty fascist to me
Lol nietzsche isn't theory but this would be like linking to a 15 minute youtube about how bill murray's character in groundhog day is a marxist cause he hates women so much and saying something about marx being a protosexist.
IDGAF about the departed and whether jack nicholsons character is an ubermensch or something
Does anyone on here actually read shit
Nietzsche equally inspired Hitler and Sartre, but the former only happened with careful posthumous editing of unpublished writing by his actually protofash sister.
why are you being so hostile
When I haven't read something, I simply don't have an opinion about it
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Why would I read someone who inspired Nazis, neo Nazis love, and believes in cultural supremacy?
I’d rather read something productive
I dunno, ask, like, the myriads of leftist theoreticians who have done so and have found certain things of value in Nietzsche. Not saying you should read him, but as someone else said, if you haven't read something and know next to nothing about it, you shouldn't just go off based on a random YouTube video, especially when that something is an extremely influential philosopher who has also influenced in various ways a large number of leftist theorists. Nietzsche isn't just some random fash and it's very oversimplified to say he influenced Nazis (and also really not his fault). Condensing the entirety of someone's massive and influential work into a 15 minute video that isn't even about his philosophy per se isn't great.
Read whatever you want, but don't get surprised when people are annoyed at having to combat your ignorance about a topic
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He "inspired" Nazis because Nazis twisted his work to suit their ends
Time to log off champ
I mean, we're fighting fascism right, why shouldn't we try to understand its philosophy?
It's easier to fight an enemy when you know how they think.
edit: and to be clear, I don't actually think Nietzsche was a fascist himself, although ultimately I don't think his philosophy is particularly valuable.
you're a fed to be fair
Nietzsche is bad, cause he was dunked on by people I like, both dead as well as living.
Rick Roderick is a much better overview of Nietzsche http://rickroderick.org/200-guide-nietzsche-and-the-postmodern-condition-1991/
I think your link is broken
hm it's working for me, googling "rick roderick nietzsche postmodernism" should get you there though.
The Partially Examined Life used to have it up on their YouTube channel but I can't find it now.
Googling that does show the link you referenced, but it says Site Not Found for me. But I can find the page on internet archive so its all good.
that is weird as hell. must be on the server's end.
ProtoFISH, he was an lancelet.