Political Compass was originally constructed by American libertarians trying to pitch themselves a separate from democrats (lib left) and republicans (auth right). The fact that it's incoherent about actual left-wing ideologies is a given, considering who made it.
The Political Compass website defines left/right as state vs "free" (capital) control of the economy* and up/down as government enforced social hierarchy vs not. So yeah, by that definition MLs are libleft (lower left). But typically when we talk about libleft and authleft we're using that as shorthand for direct transition to communism vs an intermediary stage of state control, by which MLs are authleft. The compass tries to piggyback on that and put Stalin in the authleft quadrant, even though that's not actually consistent with the axes as it defined them.
*Worker control isn't even an option, which is why I said it can't conceive of ancoms.
Yeah, I understand that libleft/authleft is often understood to be ML vs anarchist or whatever more moderate version of those ideologies, but it goes against the stated rules of the political compass and just contributes to people having an even worse understanding of communism than they already do.
"There are bigger fish to fry than Nazis." - auth left
wtf are those bigger fish? Trots?
I don't think most authleft flairs on that sub are, like, MLs. they usually strike me as some form of nazbol or similar shit
The definitions used by the Political Compass website put nazbols in that quadrant, MLs in the lower left, and can't conceive of ancoms.
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Political Compass was originally constructed by American libertarians trying to pitch themselves a separate from democrats (lib left) and republicans (auth right). The fact that it's incoherent about actual left-wing ideologies is a given, considering who made it.
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Maybe? I have been wrong before.
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Oh no that's too pretentious I'm gonna die.
Just, the worst Island
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yes, well, you see - Hillary Clinton is actually auth-left
imo MLs are libleft, or they would be if the political compass weren't shit ass garbage
The Political Compass website defines left/right as state vs "free" (capital) control of the economy* and up/down as government enforced social hierarchy vs not. So yeah, by that definition MLs are libleft (lower left). But typically when we talk about libleft and authleft we're using that as shorthand for direct transition to communism vs an intermediary stage of state control, by which MLs are authleft. The compass tries to piggyback on that and put Stalin in the authleft quadrant, even though that's not actually consistent with the axes as it defined them.
*Worker control isn't even an option, which is why I said it can't conceive of ancoms.
Yeah, I understand that libleft/authleft is often understood to be ML vs anarchist or whatever more moderate version of those ideologies, but it goes against the stated rules of the political compass and just contributes to people having an even worse understanding of communism than they already do.
he means the jews
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all of them are chuds cosplaying as other ideologies*, people flaired libleft saying shit like "Hitler killed 6 billion Jews"
Neoliberalism
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