Hit play on each video then hit play on the button at the bottom to sync. Mute one video once you've started.

  • Randomdog [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Videographer and editor here - it's possible (though unlikely) that this is just an innocent mistake. The footage for the English broadcast doesn't look purposely BADLY graded, it looks UNgraded.

    Like yeah this COULD be an intentional colour shift to evoke a mood, and seeing as how it's a professional media organsation then it probably is, but it also COULD be that some idiot has just exported the English version without a LUT on it.

      • Randomdog [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yep also very possible - although for something like this it would probably be the same editor making all the versions and then just one of them was incorrectly exported.

        That said, there are also differences in the actual content later in the piece, so fuck knows what's happening.

          • Randomdog [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Honestly that settles it then - the footage was shot in Log, one of the editors knew what they were doing and the other one didn't.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      I'm gonna find more of these to prove a point. Then look for like Japanese or other language ones where they all clearly get the same version.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Weird how the Chinese channel posted their version 3 hours earlier than the English channel if the English channel had no extra work to do too. Ignore this comment.

        • Awoo [she/her]
          hexagon
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          edit-2
          4 years ago

          Also worth noting that the English version actually has some actual editing in it too. They change a scene with the hairdresser where they talk about how they are looking forwards to opening another salon in 2021. It goes out of sync with the Chinese version at that point. This happens at roughly 8:40. I'm not sure what further scene editing might be past this point.

          EDIT: I don't know exactly what the change is because I don't speak Chinese. But they don't both say the same thing if you pay attention to the audio on each.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            They cut a scene out with the hairdresser where they talk about how they are looking forwards to opening another salon in 2021

            :soviet-hmm: :thonk: :bean-think:

            Between this and the CIA ties to the "Six Days in Fallujah" video game I'm going to go full CIAbrain and unironically blame everything bad in this world on five eyes intelligence.

            • Awoo [she/her]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              Edited that, I don't know EXACTLY what they've changed so I adjusted the comment a bit. But something is sus. What is said in one video is not the same as what is said in the other video if you play the audio of each. Desync definitely happens at that point either way.

    • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The question is why would you have two grading teams? Why would you employ people say in China to grade it then employ people in the UK to also grade it. It's duplicating work and very wasteful. Better to choose one, have them do it, then publish to your various language/region platforms. Also makes little sense for something that isn't time sensitive (e.g. breaking news) to rush through posting one without proper grading, then bother to take the time to fix it for a different bureau. I mean I can't say I've ever worked in that industry but it just doesn't make sense not to have a process that includes grading before anything non-live gets greenlit for airing. Specials like this especially you have the luxury of sitting in your editing box and tweaking it a bit, choosing different settings and picking what you want to go with.

      Distortion by omission is still distortion and it is the favorite tactic of the western press because it allows plausible deniability.

    • blackmesa [comrade/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm guessing they forgot the LUT. If this was strategic, it would have been graded a bit cooler like the BBC China version, with the outdoor/skyline/sun scenes with the warmer tones

  • ElonMarx [comrade/them]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    Whoa I was seeing it thinking there isn't much difference then 0:38 hit.

    Wonder what's up with their color grading that two copies of the same edit could look so different only for specific shots.

    How did you find this?

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      They're clearly doing it to ensure that it feels nice and rundown giving it a dreary atmosphere. Show people a washed out country and they'll get a washed out emotion from it.

      Not to mention the fact it makes everyone look slightly ill.

      I got it from /u/tooleftwingforreddit who moderates /r/ROI where it was posted.

      None of this is surprising to UK leftists who saw the "mistake" edits the BBC repeatedly did to Corbyn and Boris content throughout the election.

      • WittyProfileName [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Like the time they accidentally photoshopped Corbyn to look like he was in a communist propaganda poster.

        • Awoo [she/her]
          hexagon
          ·
          4 years ago

          Or the time they accidentally used 4 year old archive footage of Boris laying flowers on Remembrance Sunday because he bodged it and laid them upside down during the election.

          • WittyProfileName [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I'd forgot about that one, they did so many edits to try to paint Boris Johnson in a better light.

          • cresspacito [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            oopsie we took out the audience laughing at Boris when he said the truth was important!

            • Awoo [she/her]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              Oh shit I forgot that one! OOPSIE DAISY OUR MISTAKE!

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I was thinking the same thing. "Yeah I kinda see it when it zooms in on somebody's face but it's subtle enough that it could just be some kind of encoding differe-OH WOW."

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Mute one video once you’ve started.

    Better yet, mute both to minimize chances of brainworm infection.

  • mazdak
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    1 year ago

    deleted by creator

    • fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      Really makes you think about all the little changes we don’t know about yet

  • camaron28 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I wonder what would be the filter for NA if China or Bollywood did the same thing.

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They do, and it's usually just an audio effect of traffic jams and gunshots.

  • PsychedelicPill [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    The filter swaps back and forth at around 2 minutes, where its vibrant on the English side then switches back to the Chinese side looking better.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      4 years ago

      No I think the English color grading has a consistently warmer temperature, but the feeling that evokes can differ depending on the context

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      Do you have an exact timestamp or screenshot? I'm not seeing it.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    Wonder what colour filters they use for African countries? Do they make it extra saturated or do they also wash out the colours and use a piss filter as well?

  • threshold [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    My friends went to China in 2010/2011 and said it was impossible to see the city as they were landing due to smog. How's the smog level now?

  • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I don't know anything about editing, so I'll need somemone to ELI5: can you explain why someone whould believe that you were able to find both the broadcasted and the original version of this clip? For all I know, you could be using photoshop to make one look better than the other.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      Both videos being displayed are the official BBC channels which you can click through on to check. One is BBC News (English) an the other is BBC News China.

      The site isn't rehosting anything, each embedded video is just the official source directly from youtube, it even shows in the top left of the video when you hover over either of them.