Tell me how you reform a country that was 5% KKK members less than 100 years ago.

  • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    As Stokley Carmichael aka Kwame Ture once said:

    Dr. King's policy was that nonviolence would achieve the gains for black people in the United States. His major assumption was that if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That's very good. He only made one fallacious assumption: In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I believe the only reason we got the civil rights act was because the USSR was able to highlight the USA's hypocrisies to the global south - which is itself mostly non-white. It was a really bad look and presented a problem for American Imperialism, so they finally relented.

      I mean, I don't think it would've happened without the civil rights movement either, just that you needed both.

      • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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        4 years ago

        That’s literally it. Most documentaries even mention this as it. It’s literally part of the non-violent movement playbook as laid out by Ghandi. The main goal isn’t getting the dominant culture to agree. The point is to SHAME AND SCARE THEM into agreeing.

        Salt March and it’s bad PR for the UK during a tumultuous political climate, US and Civil Rights with the Soviets and other nations able to point out the hypocrisy of the US.

        This is why I get annoyed when leftists claim MLK was a milktoast. Non-violent DOES NOT mean non-confrontational. The movement wasn’t some petite bourgeoisie Sunday afternoon activity. It was around the clock 24/7 Harris many and engagement with the corrupt system To make it BUCKLE under the weight of protracted pressure.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Absolutely - and all the opinion polls showed that MLK was absolutely and universally hated by white Americans right up to his death. Shows he was just holding hands with white libs and praying for change or whatever.

          • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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            4 years ago

            Wasn't doing that he routinely criticized them as being worse then racists cause at least racists make their defense of the system understood. The white liberal’s defense of the unjust system while claiming to be in support of changing it, was to King a bigger betrayal.

  • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The KKK population was all but gone before 1915 until a movie that made them look cool caused 5% of the population to recreate them

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeh lol, apparently the original klan didn’t even wear the robes and shit, that was all from Birth of a Nation

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    There's definitely another universe in very close proximity to our own where in the 1930s white US Americans totally get behind a fascist who does a genocide on black Americans.

    • DeepPoliSci [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The fascist coup financed by JP Morgan & Prescott Bush in 1934 boasted 500,000 members organized through the American Legion. A major reason it failed was that the general they drafted to lead the coup, Smedley Butler, was a diehard Liberal and opposed overthrowing the democratically elected government. The world you are describing was barely avoided.

      John Spivak's coverage on the Business Plot is :100-com:

  • Catiline [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you just count it as proportion of the white adult male population— the only group that could really join the KKK — then it probably becomes like 20% lol.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    By making Strom Thurmond's best buddy president and cheering him for appeasing the republican death cult.