Just buy more flags Sir Keith :agony: :ukkk:
UK is still in lockdown btw. That surge hasn’t even happened yet. Local elections in May. TERF Isle sinkage imminent
It doesn't even work though, Labour got some of their highest numbers under Corbyn meanwhile under both Miliband and Starmer the party has floundered
Bro "lost" an election and somehow managed to jump in the polls... I've never seen that before or since in my entire life
Your role is to convince and demonstrate a better world is possible.
Literally the last 40 years of Reagan/Thatcherism. Convincing people that individualism is the path to happiness and self-actualization, then capitalizing on the insecurities alienation creates to perpetuate the system. Like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey to make it move forward.
Neoliberals mastered the art of selling people a "better world" and now we're all chasing the dragon, looking for that next hit of feeling-successful.
Leftists could learn from that. But they still have a sizable hurdle to overcome when neoliberal institutions have such overwhelming control of the capital necessary to propagate this message.
The worst bit is that as the conservatives convince people, the right wing of labour are following what they think the people want so the whole country is slowly sliding down the fucking toilet
Consistent beliefs and policies win elections too which is what makes Labour doubly frustrating here. An empty suit like Starmer drums up nothing but apathy.
-Soulja
Hmm, surely Sir Keith is gonna get booted of the party after an historic shit eating, what? he couped and purged the party neutering it in record time securing his position no matter what? Oh, I guess power can be wielded willingly instead of asking permision from shitheads careerist zeros to maybe post a tweet and get demonized by the media anyways.
Next time, you shall make no excuses...
No, it's not the same, because Keir Stormfront is 100% supported by the establishment of the party. Corbyn was external to it. So Heil Stormer wields power over the party that Corbyn never did.
Yeah I know, but Corbyn should have purged anyone slightly opposing him, that's how electoralism is played.
The organised and powerful Labour right wing was one of the main reasons Corbyn lost. They sabotaged the Labour campaign, they started the antisemitism smears, they caused the flip-flopping on Brexit. They would rather loose to the Tories than win with Corbyn.
I don't know if it was possible for Corbyn to do or not or if he was simply too nice a person to fight dirty but the fact that he didn't led to his defeat. I can't see how a leftist could ever win if they didn't forcefully defeat the disloyal right wing in their own party.
If Corbyn fought as a cutthroat they would have simply smeared him as a Stalinist
instead ofin addition to an anti-semite. There were no tactics he could apply which change the fact that elections are run by the media and the media is firmly in the pocket of capital.I think playing the game in good faith was the correct choice for Corbyn and Sanders. They showed us just how pointless elections are.
They will call anyone left of Thatcher stalinist anyway, might as well be politically effective at the same time
He couldn't do that. He purged a bunch of people. You can't purge everyone and if you try you'll just drive a massive split through party and the establishment will destroy you. Parties like Labour are inherently and structurally limited like that.
Well... Actually yes. The only way they can win on nationalism and racism is by being even more nationalist and racist than the Tories.
Racist voters are going to vote for the most convincingly racist party. The idea that you can triangulate the perfect position in the centre of the electorate is misguided.
Even then I feel like a lot of megachuds in the UK wouldn't vote Labour on principle, they'll just vote for whatever Farage's latest grift party is. I have no idea what strategy Starmer is trying to employ here but it's fucked lmao
Tories: We are sacrificing 140,000 grandmas to summon the demon Noraiath, who does nothing but shit on the heads of anyone it can find
CON +15
Kieth: Someone get my medium on the phone! We need to summon our own head shitting demon!
Lmao the greens are doing better than the LDs because everyone with their head on straight is ditching Sir “we need to be more pro business”
My prediction that the Tories will morph into perpetual Gaullist/Christian Democrat one-party rule (but with austerity replacing Keynesian economic management) is looking really great now.
Look, I like Labour - I even voted for Labour in the last two elections! I just think that they need to sort out their leader...
Huh, so that's how it feels to be on the other end of saying that.
Holy shit. What scares me is the knowledge the the US has been following UK politics in an eerily similar way. It was Brexit then Trump. It was Corbyn then Bernie. And now it looks like the conservatives will win back control in 2022 in the UK because the "left" party chose to sink itself rather than doing the right thing which was also popular.
This spells bad times for the Democrats in the US, especially if they fail to kill the filibuster to pass major, one in a generation legislation like the election reform bill the House just passed.
win back control in 2022 in the UK
What? They already have a majority in the UK.
Dems are so fucked. This particular iteration of politics is well and truly over. The sooner the better because I'm just worried the Dems stick around like a billionaire octagenarian with their roach like resilience
November 2021: Starmer passes out from dehydration and exhaustion during live PMQs due to the ghillie suit of poppies he's wearing
Hardly. George Bush Jr presided over the worst attack on US soil since the British burned down the White House. But he leveraged the crisis to look Presidential on the TV. People flocked to his banner because it seemed like he was actually fucking doing something.
The Tories have done a shit job of handling COVID. But they are always and forever running around looking like they're doing things. Liberals just sit around and complain that they're powerless.
Blairites in 2018/19 be like "a CoMpEtEnT lEaDeR wOuLd Be 20 pOiNtS aHeAd"
Get Brexit done and hurl the entirety of Terf Island directly into the centre of the sun.
Can we not just hurl the terfs into the sun so the rest of us can reclaim the island?
honestly my conclusion from all of this has been that labour has been losing the working class for a while now, and it wasn't even "anti semitism"/socialism/media lies that did corbyn in... it was just inevitable no mater who was leading the party
i guess 2017 was a bit of a fluke?
Nah it took a massive media onslaught to kill Corbyn. Kier is just that shit and has been totally ineffectual at calling out the failures of the Tories throughout the pandemic, and in response to his floundering polling numbers decided to rebrand labour as “more pro business” losing even more people. So he’s just that shit.
The real takeaway is that the actual organized working class in Britain is dead and died decades ago. Scotland realized southern England loves the Tories so much they'll literally destroy the Union to keep them in perpetual power, so they fled for SNP and Labour lost what constituencies they had there. That leaves some legacy constituencies in the North and maybe Wales too that despise the Tories, which really isn't enough to outnumber the rock solid Tory base.
Thatcher killed the organizational base of the party, Blair sacrificed long-tetm credibility for short-term electoral victories. So once the Blairite shot in the arm committed suicide via Iraq and the 2008 crisis, Labour is pretty much permanently a controlled opposition party going forward.
It's really truly done now.
I live in a very working class bit of the North West and have working class Northern friends and family everywhere. A quarter of them will never vote for Labour again due to their Brexit disaster, about a quarter are in their teens-30s and were burnt so badly on the party undermining itself they'll never go back, and about another quarter are old socialists who are old enough to know that Corbyn was a very brief window of opportunity and Labour is done for another generation or more.
