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Yeah, I think maybe we should start quarantining these struggle sessions somehow before they gain traction and snowball to the point that they consume everyone’s experience on the site.
Like three to five posts? Cool maybe I learn something. 100 posts? Cringe
ban anyone who feels the need to start a new one
ban anyone who feels the need to blame individuals for things instead of systems, and parody anyone who doubles down on the idea that individual choice will solve systemic problems
oh look the guy who is following me around and replying to all of my posts
I've literally never replied to one of your comments before I don't know what you're talking about?
you are right, i misread your name as someone else's name. my bad and sincere apology in the instant negative reaction
collective choice is made up of the combined individual choices of many.
that is why we have universal health care, a famously popular policy
yelling at people that we need universal health care has been extremely successful in the USA, let's take that same rhetoric to animal liberation
Here's the thing, if your health and finances allow, you can make the choice to opt out of consuming animal products, not so for universal healthcare.
if your health and finances allow, you can simply purchase your own health care
it wouldn't have the amount of popularity its grown to have if people didn't keep yelling
the discourse changed away from yelling which is why it's popular
turns out making people feel guilty about things doesn't inspire them to want to make change, but instead causes them to disengage
yeah, but enough people haven't individually made the choice to go on general strike, which is the way we actually get there.
and parody anyone who doubles down on the idea that individual choice will solve systemic problems
Uh... Please say this just means make fun of them
I think that the mods just need to be more aggressive about containing this stuff to megathreads. If you create a comm for arguments with other chapos then people who are angry will just not use it.
Sad to find out that a lot of vegan comrades would consider me not a leftist and a reactionary, but whatcha gonna do
Disagreements on policy, methods, goals, philosophy, leaders, countries, protests, consumption, rules, etc need to be debated in a civil manner. Purity tests and calling people reactionary over disagreements should be banned as a form of sectarianism. Even though these may not be conveniently labeled as part of pre-existing tendencies, this form of exclusionary discourse still divides the movement in the same way.
i haven't really gotten too much of that vibe from them. i've seen a lot more punching at vegans than i've seen vegans punching.
how about you go in and read any of the replies of the 10 posts about this struggle session on any of the pages?
the megathread is consistently great and filled with great people who are generally disconnected from the rest of the site
i recommend reading that and ignoring most other discourse
i really should read them more, you're right. the megathreads on the old sub were usually great.
Yeah I'd like to thank everyone who called veganism racist for reminding me I could be doing literally anything else
i love how even in a thread deriding the struggle sessions, you people cannot possibly help but bring them up.
it'd be neat if there was discussion but it's mostly just insult flinging.
even in this very thread, people can't fucking help themselves and have brought the struggle session here, too.
just killing time while working, but yeah I should probably do it somewhere else.
Believe it or not there's a whole community for discussing veganism. They just keep posting in other communities.
