These narratives have real world consequences. Anytime you mention Xinjiang or that China is committing a "genocide" to liberals and conservatives it helps spread this shit. It helps reinforce Sinophobic narratives and will result in more deaths. Combat these lies and this propaganda where you see It. It is our moral duty to do so.

  • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I like to immediately pivot to all the messed up, indefensible stuff the US does. It's embarrassing for them to realize that they don't care very strongly about social issues since they ignore so god damn many of them in the U$. The US stands on a mountain of misdeeds that's constantly getting larger and wants to pass judgment -- and everybody knows US 'judgment' often consists of lies, and is usually tethered to some extractivist enterprise they want from the country.

    • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm sorry sir, but you just committed a "whataboutism". Clearly that gives me the green light to say chinese people are evil.

    • rozako [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Many people won’t refer to the camps at the border as concentration camps because “that’s offensive to Holocaust survivors” but also it’s fine to use the word it it’s a different country...

      But just in general I’m sick of Holocaust comparisons. For anything. It’s like it’s been... not co-opted, per se, but just used as a comparison for everything else bad nowadays. More than 50% of my race didn’t die out for people to always say “actually this is WORSE than that.”

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        No one in real life has a serious opinion on the topic. 90% of americans think about China once a month maybe. They believe what CNN or MSNBC or Fox tells them and don't think past that.

        Online folks are either psychotic or actually signal boosted by the propaganda machine/propagandists themselves.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                But for real, in my irl experience, I just drop some Zenz facts and bring up ETIM and people usually flip. I think everyone has an opinion, but no one has strong opinions and it's mostly smoke.

                If there was actual drafting going on and initiation of conflict, you'd see that number drop real quick. There aren't videos of brutality, it's all imaginary right now. So people are just believing it, but without much conviction.

                Again, this doesn't account for the online neolib psychos or the right wing racists that just see this as an opening for them to do hate crimes and have slightly better PR.

    • abdul [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      2 things can’t be bad at once and believing otherwise is racist