“But without laws how will we ever fuck?”
- people who definitely understand fucking
Literally nobody knows what anarchism is other than "Chaos!"
EDIT: Including most of the fucking online "anarchists".
Anarchy is when you shop at Hot Topic and smash beer bottles behind the mall.
if any subgroup of heavily online misogynists were to co-opt anarchist language about sex it would be PUAs since they measure their self-worth in bedpost notches. Incels rarely want free love because they think if anybody can just fuck anybody at any time under any pretext then it's cheapened, just another meaningless thing you do socially like seeing live music or drinking at a bar
incels want the sacred tradwife, perfectly preserved from birth for them and them alone, who will love and adore them and bear them two dozen children no matter how much of a worthless piece of shit they are
They want women for the same reason a boomer dad wants an expensive car and an expensive house. Because they think it would mean they've 'won at life' and give them a sense of worth. It's not about love.
of course not, but feeling like they're obtaining love is part of the 'won at life' image they're chasing
Incels rarely want free love because they think if anybody can just fuck anybody at any time under any pretext then it’s cheapened
It seems like many incels not just want to fuck (for free) but want affection, romance, romantic relationships. Freer sexual norms won't lead to more woman getting serious with ugly awkward dudes, it would probably make it worse for them in this regard.
It's a chicken and egg thing, isn't it? There are perfectly normal-looking dudes who get into this ideology because there are not confident and are afraid to get out there and risk rejection. There are also awkward ugly dudes who probably wouldn't have turned into bitter woman-haters if they were good looking. Not saying that that's a right reaction to being awkward and ugly though.
I mean, beauty is a social construct to an extent but even if we agree that it's 100% arbitrary, would you disagree that there are people whom most people around them find unattractive? I think there are people like that and being treated like that can really fuck with person's confidence when they're growing up.
Ah yes, let us redistribute women, ya know, like property! That's totally not fucked up at all! :agony:
I dunno I think I'm too dumb to fully get what you were trying to say lol
You could create a society where sex is not seen as a taboo and "bloodlines" are meaningless as welath is not hereditary, ooorrrr you could remove the rights of half the population and force them into sexual relationships with monsters.
But you Communists would introduce community of women, screams the bourgeoisie in chorus. The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production. For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial. Our bourgeois, not content with having wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each other’s wives.
Oh fuck. I've been owned. I swear I read something written by Lenin that was similar to this. Either way, they both had that skill with words.
A third of lenin's writing is just direct Marx quotes so it's an understandable mistake
Many consider true Marxism a bit hostile to incels due to it's absence of a position on the incel issue
......hostile......due to an absence of a position?
So you want virtue signaling?
'redistribution' or 'common ownership' of women is possibly the oldest anti-egalitarian propaganda tactic out there.
accusations of such have been leveled at every social justice movement since the MAZDAKITES in 6th century Iran.
MAZDAKITES
I had to look this up so I could stop imagining little cars being flown on string
Pourshariati's Decline and Fall of the Sasanian Empire has a great chapter, where she argues the 'common ownership' was bunkum made up to make the Mazdakites look evil. There are other interpretations tho
i don't think it has ever happened in real life... except maybe by fascist powers in ww2
On a serious note, there is evidence that socialist systems help to foster better, happier relationships for everyone (not just men), including better sex lives. This is a great interview on the topic.
And here is a textual equivalent, for those like me adverse to video content: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism
As someone who went without romantic and sexual experiences for far longer than I had hoped for (mental health is a fuck) I know how much it can hurt and really hope we could find a way to make life easier, or at least less shameful, for weird awkward people.
And then objectively horrible arsewipes from the incel community comes along and make you want to punch them in the face for their awful reactionary misogynism.
Incel ideology is doing a lot of damage. Not only is it perpetuating reactionary and misogynist views but by associating people being excessively affected by loneliness and sexual frustration with some of the most disgusting ideas currently in circulation it is doing an immense damage to efforts at spreading awareness about mental health issues.
It's garbage that these incel shit heads are creating an association between people who haven't had sex as an adult with a weird type of dangerous misogyny.
Like that fucking sucks. I have solidarity for it.
So what an I'm getting from this is that there is utopian incelism and scientific incelism.
They also have developed a "novel Marxian historical materialist type analysis" known as "Vaginocapitalism".
https://incels.wiki/w/Alex_Undersky#.27Vaginocapitalism.27
imagine believeing redpill shit so hard that it becomes your sole framework for interpreting the world
Looking at this site rn... Yes. Every thread here is pure horny posting rn.
Free girlfriend and a lemonade sea, I'm starting to come around on this Fourier guy /s
