Like i have little interest in changing presentation and definitly no interest in hormones, but i do have some degree of discomfort with the concept of masculinity

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    4 months ago

    I urge you to explore the similar possibility that you're agender. I present pretty masculinely but looking at the difference between enby and agender, and learning a lot about sex and gender, I've realized that I more just feel like gender "isn't for me" about masculinity over gendering somewhere outside the binary.

    I know you think about the genders much and have lovely friends of all genders, just wanted to mention the kind of like nb but actually just no gender possibility.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      I will look into it but the label that feels comfiest to me in theory is demiman.

      Which is still under the nonbinary umbrella.

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        4 months ago

        Oh yeah, you explore what feels like you, just wanted to throw out the possibility. I'm glad you feel comfortable figuring it out.

        I just really identified with your post.

        • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
          hexagon
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          4 months ago

          Technically "half" but people mean it to just mean like "partially" or in my case its more like "mostly".

          • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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            4 months ago

            Okay, cool. I thought it meant something close to "almost" from how I've seen the word "demigod" be used. But then I saw the word "demisexual" and second guessed myself.

          • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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            4 months ago

            I've seen some define demi to mean mostly man and partly something else and libramasc to mean mostly agender but partly man. But I think you could also distinguish them as both just meaning partly man and libra specifically implying the other part is agender while demi just leaves it open to what the other part(s) is(are)?

            Still all under the NB umbrella. And if the other parts of demi include agender, then bother can be under the agender umbrella as well.

    • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
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      4 months ago

      Wouldn't agender still fall under non-binary since it's also outside of the binary? Isnt NB just the umbrella term for everything that isn't male/female?

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        4 months ago

        Yeah I suppose it would be in that literal sense non (not) binary. But my experience of how most people use the term nonbinary is to describe themselves as still experiencing an internal sense of gender that simply does not align with a male or female identity. And I think that makes sense why there are many nonbinary people who are also trans. I personally feel that gender is something that was extrinsically placed on me. I dont have any desire to transition not because I feel like being a woman would be dysphoric for me but because I don't desire to gender at all.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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          4 months ago

          NB is a big umbrella with a lot of people who really don't want to be put into boxes (not that there aren't lots of binary people also in that camp: people shouldn't try to shove each other into narrow boxes regardless). I think the autistic meme that could be adapted to NBs is "if you've met an NB, you've met one NB."

          OTOH, if using the label leads to making assumptions about you that you don't want, it makes sense to avoid it. Labels should be for your benefit, not detriment.