• TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    I see a couple (Hopefully now former?!) libs saying they've been radicalized over this whole thing. Honestly now is a good time to try spread the good word of Karl Marx to the unenlightened.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      We should also take the opportunity to point out to the scared and radicalizing liberals that they are now fully in the same boat as us: "You heard the fascist, whatever your feelings are about anarchists and communists, the nazis don't know the difference. It's all The Demonic Left to them so congrats, you've been drafted to the good guys."

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 months ago

        Liberal, to me, is anyone who supports any part of pro-capitalist ideology and goals, whether it be

        1. settler-colonialism/right-libertarianism (America's process to becoming such country)

        Also known originally, as propetarianism/classical-liberalism, a le John Locke and Adam Smith...

        1. neoliberalism/IMF structural adjustment of exploitative debt and cuts of social spending, privatization (post-cold war economic policy of capitalism, a l'Amerique, to expand capitalism,)

        2. pro-west regime-change NGOs, gulf-state-esque collaborators, and comprador nation-states (post-cold war foreign policy, to defend capitalist interests)

        Liberals change and flow, by their material conditions and situation... in fact, libs only occurred as a result of bourgeois (bourgeois now is a historical term to me) classes trying to justify themselves as a whole, as the new dominating system

        Eg. One liberal in rev. France may support beheading monarchies, while a whig lib or Kerenskyist lib in the U.K or Russia may support the Royalty itself

        • deathtoreddit

        That's how it is for me... that being said, you're probably gonna criticize me, are ye?

        • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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          4 months ago

          No, I was honestly curious. People throw "lib" around so much I'm surprised it actually has a meaning. Thanks.

          • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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            4 months ago

            In leftist spaces, Lib has the above meaning. In conservative spaces, it's a slur for anyone to the left of Mussolini, including Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists.

          • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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            4 months ago

            forgive us for being a bit bristly at times, we're used to this interaction going one and only one way typically. welcome! enjoy your time here meow-hug

          • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 months ago

            Thank you for asking questions in good faith; it's woefully uncommon and very appreciated.

            • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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              4 months ago

              Not everything needs to be an argument online. Probably better if people realize 98% of discussion online is not zero sum.
              Enjoy the rest of your week!

      • TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        Well they literally called themselves libs so I guess I just trusted them.