EDIT: These images were released by the US yesterday as a catalog of US Defense attache Col. Stewart's activities in Ukraine. This is fresh slop.

  • dead [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    A Russian resolution condemning the “glorification of Nazism” was passed by the UN General Assembly, on Wednesday, with overwhelming support, though, remarkably. both the US and Ukraine made a point of voting against the motion

    For Ukraine, the resolution was likely seen as a political barb. Neo-Nazi groups are wellrepresented in Ukrainian politics, and some have been accused of war crimes and torture during the civil war in the country's South East. At least one of these outfits, the Azov Battalion, has been armed with American weaponry.

    However, the US maintains that its opposition to the Russian resolution has nothing to do with its support for Ukrainian neo-Nazi groups. Russian officials introduce the same resolution every year, and the US has opposed it every time, arguing that forbidding the “glorification of Nazism” clashes with its First Amendment protection of free speech. 16 Dec, 2020

    According to the US state department those soldiers are doing "free speech".

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      :freeze-peach: :freeze-peach: :freeze-peach:

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Hans, have you noticed that our caps actually have little pictures of skulls on them?

  • StalinistApologist [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Skulls are kind of cool, but ruined by chuds for the most part. At least we still have Pirate skulls

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Socialists should really reclaim pirates from Disney they were very based.

  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Just a casual reminder that while the US are clearly financing nazis, the russians are not in the right either, and are very likely composed of just as many fash scum. There are no good guys here.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      What? No. The people of Crimea and Donetsk consider themselves socialists. They still sing the soviet version of the national anthem, not the edited newer russian one. The separatists are extremely leftist.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          A little in Column A and Column B. The people certainly are, whether all of the factions involved are or are not is less important, it is what the people care about. It wouldn't be a popular image otherwise.

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        My problem is with Russia to be fair. They are basically using this for their own gain, so the separatists are going to get shafted anyway, regardless of how this goes.

      • Starlet [she/her, it/its]
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        https://adcmemorial.org/wp-content/uploads/lgbtENG_fullwww.pdf

        Even more bigoted is this statement by the deputy minister for political affairs of the so-called DNR: “A culture of homosexuality is spreading... This is why we must kill anyone who is involved in this.”

        If this is inaccurate I apologize, I can't read Russian to verify this myself.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Yes this is a problem, but it's absolutely liberal propaganda. The entire bit they're doing is to claim Ukraine is somehow liberal while these territories are lgbt-phobic because they're out of Ukraine's control, this is absolutely fucking false. The fascists that control Ukraine are much, much worse.

          Generally speaking eastern europe all has an lgbt problem. This is not really related to the separatism and the fascists as well as Europe are trying to abuse people's mistaken belief that Ukraine is politically similar to Europe to mislead people on these issues.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      4 years ago

      Russia > Amerikkka, nazi-sympathizing Ukraine

      sorry to offend all the Ukrainian nationalists but I literally don't care. Shouldn't have consorted with the west so much.

      • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        No, not really. Plenty of these nazi-simps on the russian side too. The only people that get fucked here are the leftist separatists (and almost 100% these are thoroughly reactionary) and the common people.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          4 years ago

          Plenty of these nazi-simps on the russian side too.

          Who are the Russian Nazis, again? Is this the ephemeral Nazbolshivek I've heard so much about on /r/Neoliberal?

          • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Plenty. Incredibly reactionary and nationalistic ideology is really, really spread in Eastern Europe, Russia included, to the point its incredibly commonplace. And Russia is indeed pushing for it. Neolibs screeching about russians and Putin arent completely wrong. But they do completely overestimate by a large margin the influence of Kremlin outside of Eastern Europe.

              • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                Racism, nationalism, anti-lgbtq sentiments and the like. Go hangout in say vk and you will see plenty

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Ooo that's good. I should probably use dotted lines in any future one I make. I considered lines but chose not to as the number of lines would have been a mess and blocked parts of images but these dotted lines would be much less intrusive. I can learn from this.

      Just want to say that the connection between the left arm patch and the Right Sector is incorrect though. That patch is just the Ukrainian coat of arms. It's not Right Sector without the red/black colour scheme which is a reference to the groups during Stepan Bandera's time. Unfortunately the group Right Sector are just coopting a Ukrainian historic symbol. This is why I focused on the picture of her saluting the grave of the Right Sector member instead to draw that link as he was very clearly a member, it's on his wiki page.

      I've spent the last few days learning a lot about this. Very interesting. Ukraine is much more fash than I ever thought, institutionally so I would say.

      • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Just want to say that the connection between the left arm patch and the Right Sector is incorrect though. That patch is just the Ukrainian coat of arms. It’s not Right Sector without the red/black colour scheme which is a reference to the groups during Stepan Bandera’s time. Unfortunately the group Right Sector are just coopting a Ukrainian historic symbol. This is why I focused on the picture of her saluting the grave of the Right Sector member instead to draw that link as he was very clearly a member, it’s on his wiki page.

        Ah, my mistake! A corrected version You could also do numbers like so , since it seems people (or at least I did for some of the cropped pics, still can't see the 3rd Panzer patch in any of the original pics) have trouble connecting the dots.

        Yeah, honestly I'm surprised at how brazen they are given where they are! But then again, if the UK et al is anything to see - proximity to battles fought in WW2 means nothing in the fight against fascism.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Easy mistake to make. I made it myself during the process of it and it was basically a complete accident that I learned the coat of arms.

          I don't like the numbers. You have to go fishing around the image for them and it's going to be irritating for the end user. Lines are good. I also thought about some sort of magnifying glass approach but feel like it's something that probably works better in video or gif format better.

          I think the brazenness is out of necessity. The situation is heading towards an end game rapidly now.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah the point of this was literally just to show the information released yesterday showing the US attache working in Ukraine is working directly with Right Sector.

  • LangdonAlger [any]
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    4 years ago

    Is it just me or do none of these pictures connect to the other pictures?

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The 4 images were released as a set by the US in a press release yesterday covering her work as an attache in Ukraine. I didn't include the 4th one because there's nothing relevant about it.

    • LargeAdultSon [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah. Not that I don't believe working with a neofascist group is in character for the US military, but this collection of images isn't exactly evidence.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        This collection of images released by the US itself showing the US attache working with Right Sector people, wearing Right Sector patches, saluting Right Sector graves, and alongside a division whose symbol was literally changed to the Right Sector colours 2 years ago and had a nazi Totenkopf added to it? If that's not evidence to you please tell me your bar for evidence.

        • LargeAdultSon [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Ah, missed the skull patch on the woman in the image the embassy tweeted, and didn't know the others were from a US press release, my bad. Wow, they really don't even care about pretending to be the good guys anymore, huh.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            It's also on the large flag on the wall in the same image.

  • Mike_Penis [any]
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    4 years ago

    I mean it's not just nazis that are fighting against separatists.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Of course, but what is pictured is the US attache working with nazis and saluting the grave of a nazi from the same group, Right Sector.

      With that said, it isn't that much of a stretch to say that much of the Ukrainian military are nazis or nazi sympathisers. It's fash all the way down. Ukrainian military positions on the front right now are openly flying nazi flags all over the place.

      • Mike_Penis [any]
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        4 years ago

        yeah that shit's weird. Like you'd have to hate Russia so much to fly the flag of the army that wanted to exterminate your entire race.

        Also whenever I see people mention this it just makes me think that they want Russia to win or something idk. Ukraine sucks but so does Russia so it's going to be shit if Ukraine keeps its territory or not.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          https://youtu.be/jacKwoEHpaw

          Watching this doc does a lot to help understand the history of it, why these symbols and colours are used, where it all comes from. It's not weird, it's just that hardly anyone knows much about Ukraine, it gets lumped into the EU block a lot when it is in fact absolutely steeped in fascist organising at all levels.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Right Sector aren't part of the Ukrainian army. They are a separate "volunteer fighter" organisation that is explicitly neofascist.