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    • CommCat [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I checked it out a bit, but the blind worshiping of the CCP just shows they are more nationalists than actual socialists. Even if you think China is still on the path of building Socialism, their use of all the worst ills of capitalism can't be ignored. Shit like billionaires and sweatshops can't just be ignored. I even remember at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, there was even a post about how Jack Ma was supplying protective equipment. lol ffs that's like praising Jeff Bezos for spending a minute portion of his wealth for some good PR.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Shit like billionaires and sweatshops can’t just be ignored.

        In my experience the people who want to argue about those things are just trying to virtue signal their way out of supporting AES, you know China has billionares, prisons, sweatshops and poverty still, I mean I wonder why anybody would support a socialist country smh.

        Any good faith argumentation of those issues run into the issue that none of this is new, nobody is ignoring actualy ignoring any of that, people have already gone and wrote pages of argumentation about what it means to build productive forces both on this site and on Reddit and how you can't just press the communism button, yet there are always some people who willingly forget all this argumentation, who write as if coming to these issues with a clean slate as if nobody knows China has billionaires or nobody is considering what to do about it.

        If you look at the context here, you'll see that those are Reddit communities, we are in the middle of a new cold war where people are getting fucked up murdered and killed on the street for looking like Asians, and some people are more concerned with discussing Chinese billionaires than the uncritical support for AES in these times.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      And ironically named given that China is no longer Maoist and hasn't been in a long time

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        There's a stark difference between ML(M)s and Maoists. The former are socialists that uphold the contributions to the socialist project by MZT while also critiquing his mistakes as ideological dead-ends, whereas the latter dogmatically uphold the Gonzaloite shining path interpretation of MZT - including making every mistake he had done their goal.

        Easy comparison is look up a ML(M) group and compare their work to those of the American Red Guards like the infamous Austin RG.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Ironically, Mao would probably have hunted down modern Maoists. And Stalin would probably have at the very least ignored or purged anyone who considers themselves a "Stalinist".

      • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Ask them who they would support in the (highly unlikely) hypothetical scenario where China goes full capitalist and India undergoes a successful socialist revolution

        That's probably one way of telling

  • ssjshrek [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ah yes, I love getting into arguments about socialism where the subject is checks notes privately-owned airlines' seating quality.

    /r/genzedong's commenters get points for pointing out how dumb this post is though (minus the one guy with the anecdote about Mexican movie theaters).

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I believe that the big three Chinese airlines are all owned by the state transport ministry via a holding company.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Well, if you're gonna complain about aircraft seats, why not look into the standing seats that're being designed to "more efficiently move customers to their destination"

    Look up "skyrider 2.0" if you want another reason to hate capitalism.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yes, it’s good to have an opinion on something

      i'm not so sure

    • SnAgCu [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      i feel like a more likely development would be the complete opposite where airlines make us all stand and claim it has "ergonomic benefits" or some shit

    • comi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I’m imagining instead of 5th element, it would be more like european night intercity trains. The image is funny

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    That said, I've taken Business Class on China Southern and while it's not, like, Etihad, its a lot better than the above.