• Yanqui_UXO [any]
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    4 years ago

    Children used to be a means to support aging parents. Now, with the downward mobility, it's the other way around.

    • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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      4 years ago

      Good point. Also with retirement systems in place, now I don't have to birth a child just so someone will take care of me in old age rather than just being left to die after my labor isn't of value anymore

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I read this first as less 15 to 19 year olds being born and I was like wow, is it otherwise common in America for women to give birth to teens?

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Honestly the American cultural fascination with high school would make much more sense if people were born as teens over there.

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          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I've also heard the theory that High School is a person's first taste of semi-autonomy and is remembered fondly because high schoolers are yet to feel burdens like work and student loans (in theory).

            But I still don't get why high school is much more of a thing over there than in other parts of the West.

      • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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        4 years ago

        Not as much anymore, but even in the 80s and 90s, about 15% of babies in America were born to teen mothers.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You know you're living in a healthy, vibrant society when the prospects for life there makes people stop having children.

    Nothing unstable or failed about that.

  • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    By far and away our biggest concern for having a second child is economic.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that birth rate tracks with hope for the future. So, not surprising that it's on the decline.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      4 years ago

      You know what happens when people have no hope for the future?

      they start revolutions. so there's a silver lining to this

    • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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      4 years ago

      Idk how we could measure hope for the future, but if we could I'd 100% expect births to follow along with it.

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's when you ask people questions like, how hopeful are you about the future?

        • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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          4 years ago

          Lol I mean yeah. Idk I feel like it's more complicated than that but I guess maybe it isn't

          • OgdenTO [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I mean, you ask lots of people and do statistics and ask other questions too, but yeah that's pretty much it.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Very true. My family is fairly affluent and I have little doubt that I'll be financially stable, but I cannot imagine having children with the climate crisis on the horizon. I am already worried about it affecting me, I couldn't bear having to worry about my children's future.

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  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    am still laughing at Matty Glesias and his dumbass ONE BILLION AMERICANS thing

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I can barely afford myself. How am I supposed to bring a kid into all this?!

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      4 years ago

      you talkin' to me?

      Bickleization

      fun word btw. Also the truth, taxi driver/Travis seems even more relevant to a lot of males now that capitalist society is even more alienating and isolating.

      • EconomicCumflation [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        they meant to write pickleization - it's when somebody turns themself into a pickle. funniest shit i've ever seen