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A lifelong Democrat, she said in the poll that she would vote for Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden, whom she called “too old and a bit out of touch” and “a bit of a doofus.” Yet she believes the problems in the country had more to do with gerrymandered congressional districts than with Mr. Biden. By the end of the interview, she said she “will likely vote for him again — I’m just not happy about it.”
“Honestly, it was more of a choice of it just not being Joe Biden,” said Clara Carrillo-Hinojosa, a 21-year-old financial analyst in Las Vegas, of her support for Ms. Harris. She said she would probably vote for Mr. Trump: “Personally, I think we were doing a lot better when he was in the presidency, price-wise, money-wise, income-wise.
Yet in some ways, Ms. Carrillo-Hinojosa is the kind of voter Mr. Biden hopes he can win once people start focusing on the race. Mr. Trump has offended her as a woman, she said, and she likes some of what Mr. Biden has done, including his support for Israel.
“My biggest thing is not seeing America fall in shambles,” he said. “With this war I think Biden is way too lenient — with Hamas, Iran, Iraq, the whole nine yards. What I like about Trump is he was keeping everybody at bay and not wanting to mess with America.”
Mr. Maxon, who is Black, said Mr. Trump had made racist remarks, yet he plans to vote for him. “He’s helped out countless Black people, more than Biden did by a landslide,” he said. Specifically, he said, it was through pandemic unemployment assistance and other relief funding at the start of the pandemic (the Biden administration also distributed relief funding).
Honestly I think it just highlights a lot of the political illiteracy in the general public.
Like
Personally, I think we were doing a lot better when he was in the presidency, price-wise, money-wise, income-wise.
People's memories are just weird. Before the pandemic forced Trump and the federal government to step in to save capital, people were in dire straits. The 2016 and 2020 election in their totality were a referendum on the economic struggles that most Americans were experiencing post-2008 financial crisis. There a reason why we saw populist like Trump and Bernie rise above the field of neo-liberal politicians. But people seemingly act like the government wouldn't have ended the pandemic relief programs even if Trump had been reelected.
Mr. Maxon, who is Black, said Mr. Trump had made racist remarks, yet he plans to vote for him. “He’s helped out countless Black people, more than Biden did by a landslide,” he said. Specifically, he said, it was through pandemic unemployment assistance and other relief funding at the start of the pandemic (the Biden administration also distributed relief funding).
He's not wrong of course. The Biden administration's greatest failure before going genocidal was ending pandemic relief as soon as it did. But again, this highlights the problem with how Americans think about politics outside of the very limited scope they have. If Trump is reelected he has no reason to do the same as he did during the pandemic unless capital faces another threat.
She's a 21 year old financial analyst. She doesn't live in the real world.
She truly does not considering she thinks Iraq is a hot pressed issue like Iran and Hamas lol
(the Biden administration also distributed relief funding)
Didn't he promise $2k, but smudged the math to include the previous payment plus a tax credit and only paid out $600?
People remember shit when it comes to money that can make a big difference in their lives. I have no idea why centrist Dems thought borderline gaslighting people was going to be effective.
Yeah, that's just some dumb Snopes smuglord lib nonsense by the author. Like yeah he sent out one
$6001400 check (after lying about giving 2k as you said) and extended some of the relief programs, but ended most of the programs right when inflation was hitting people the hardest.It was 1400 he shorted the promise by 600 because the trump admin sent out 600 a few months prior
That was an absolutely wild time. I recall libs telling me it was always going to be $1,400 and that I didn't understand politics.
Yeah renewing student loan payments was a dumb shit move and I think he lost the youth vote with that strategy + genocide.
Literally ran campaign adds with a check with $2000 in the amount box then when elected said no obviously the $600 you already got was part of it and repeatedly insisted nobody said anything about $2000.
"Motherfucker still owes me $600" is a meme, it's also legitimately a lot of people policy poaition.
Turns out objectively lying to people and then calling them stupid when they bring it up isn't a great electoral strategy.
Biden was stumping for Warnock and literally said $2000 checks would be in the mail.
No, it was Trump who proposed $2k.
Initially the Democrats wanted to give out $600. Pelosi even famously said $600 was “significant”, then suddenly, for reasons I still don’t understand, Trump jumped out and said we should be giving people $2k.
Then the Democrats said since people already got $600 under Trump, it should be $1.4k. That’s why people said Biden owed them $600.
Trump probably said $2000 because, like most rich people, he has no real concept of money. It’s like when Bill Gates massively overestimated the price of groceries on TV a few years ago. He probably thought $2000 was basically nothing, but overshot what “basically nothing” actually is
But people seemingly act like the government wouldn't have ended the pandemic relief programs even if Trump had been reelected.
I mean, maybe they wouldn't. Trump does seem to get that giving away money is good for your popularity. Biden either hadn't noticed or doesn't give a shit.
If Trump is reelected he has no reason to do the same as he did during the pandemic unless capital faces another threat.
It's guaranteed to take another plunge if the GOP (or the Dems, for that matter) have a chance to do another gutting of public spending.
One way or another, we're going to be in another recession by 2028. Likely sooner.
I mean, maybe they wouldn't. Trump does seem to get that giving away money is good for your popularity. Biden either hadn't noticed or doesn't give a shit.
I think that would depend largely on whether or not he cared for his legacy after his final term, which hey may have given his inflated ego or if he would have tried to remain for a third term, if he realistically wanted to "end democracy" as most libs believed. Also, related to legacy, is if he'd want to set things up for Republicans who are aligned with him to get some residual benefit from his popularity for the long term.
Personally I think he was against giving people money until he learned it wasn't his money he'd be giving away
I think that would depend largely on whether or not he cared for his legacy after his final term
He absolutely does. The guy lives and dies by his name, and he wants Americans to remember him as a hero. He'll likely get his wish, too. I have no doubt that, twenty years from now, we're going to have some Thomas Sowell / Ross Perot / Milton Friedman analog leading up the "Trump Institute" in the same way the Hoover Institute and the assorted Eisenhower, LBJ, Reagan, and Clinton revisionists rebranded their old meal tickets' reputations.
Also, related to legacy, is if he'd want to set things up for Republicans who are aligned with him to get some residual benefit from his popularity for the long term.
Like Reagan before him, Trump wants to be an icon that points the way for the party of the future. But he's not terribly good at building organization. It congeals around his personality, but isn't easily transferable even to his immediate family. He's certainly tried to transfer that image, if for no other reason that it would have allowed him to cultivate allies in Congress and the judiciary more easily. But all he ever really gets is a bunch of yes-men aping him while running off on their own personal agendas the moment they're in office.
That's the real legacy of Trump. Folks are going to be arguing about "True Trumpism" long after he kicks it, but it'll be that much more word salad. None of his political ideologue will carry forward, because that ideology is still rooted in the old National Socialism of his father's generation and it is antithetical to modern American business theory. But folks running around in bronzer and saying "I'm just like Trump"? That'll echo for a generation.
Personally, I think we were doing a lot better when he was in the presidency, price-wise, money-wise, income-wise
This is the Ur-cyclical voter. Things get worse, vote other guy. Things get worse again, vote other guy.
You only have two buttons and none of them do anything, so you keep slapping and kicking the control panel hoping something will work.
There is an alternative - the Japanese option of pressing the same button again and again (LDP) hoping that the result will change this time around.
Yet in some ways, Ms. Carrillo-Hinojosa is the kind of voter Mr. Biden hopes he can win once people start focusing on the race. Mr. Trump has offended her as a woman, she said, and she likes some of what Mr. Biden has done, including his support for Israel.
That's because to put yourself in the shoes of the person with these opinions you literally have to pretend to be really really fucking stupid.
With this war I think Biden is way too lenient — with Hamas, Iran, Iraq, the whole nine yards. What I like about Trump is he was keeping everybody at bay and not wanting to mess with America.
The weird tough guy aesthetic that dumbasses created around trump will never cease to amaze me Lmao
Trump, keeping everybody at bay: https://www.telesurenglish.net/__export/1589202178421/sites/telesur/img/2020/05/11/whatsapp_image_2020-05-10_at_22_30_27_jpg_1718483347.jpg_1718483346.jpg
Figured this would be the picture of him saluting the North Korean general.
nah just his budget brand mercenaries that all got captures in venezuela
should have done the video of him with the saudis sword dancing though
21-year-old financial analyst Personally, I think we were doing a lot better when he was in the presidency
you were 14-18
Taking smaller and smaller slices of electorate to exhume american brains
21 year old financial analyst
These journalists are so sheltered in their bubble that they interview this nepobaby thinking they're a normal person
21-year-old financial analyst
Life was better when mommy and daddy bought me a Range Rover and paid for me and 5 friends to go to Cabo for spring break.
Too lenient with… Iraq? The country that is nominally in peace time and nominally an ally?
A poltical illiterate, a fascist, and a boomerang bigot
Truly America encapsulated
HE'S TOO LENIENT WITH THE IRAN THE IRAQ AND SUCH AS
we really need to make that girl an emoji
Yah know, Libs like to blame all their electoral woes on us Leftists, but goons with totally incoherent politics like these probably outnumber us, at least 2 to 1 if not more, but nobody seems to ever blame anything on them.
People do have bizarre takes like this but also these sorts of selective interviews are so easy to use for consent manufacturing. Interview 100 people and sift through for the one that matches your opinions and now you've created the perception of that opinion being normal.
Wow you mean it's actually thenlibs when are one petty personal slight away from voting for Republicans and not the socialists criticizing the dems from the left? Who could have guessed.
Oh anybody who was alive to watch literally 1/4 of Hillary voters say they were going to vote for McCain over Obama and literally made th slogan"Party Unity My Ass" Yea that makes sense.
