Holy shit. What an absolute dumpster fire of a movie. I don't even know where to start on it.
So many things that didn't have payoffs within the movie (apparently there's going to be prequels or whatever but who the fuck cares). Just off the top of my head the robot zombies, the alien talk, the whole time loop deal down in the basement, the rain waking up zombies. None of it meant anything.
Some of the weirdest things I've ever seen a movie. The whole main zombie and his zombie wife + baby, pointless side quests, The entire point of the movie was a lie, but it would have just been way easier to send in a team to get a zombie head?
It really was a peak into the mind of Zack Snyder, who absolutely has the mind of a 12 year old suburban teen from the early 2000s.
It was a really great hate-watch.
What did everyone else think?
Edit: Talking about it, though, the part where Batista's best friend got her neck snapped and a single tear rolled down her face was one of the best unintentionally funny things I've seen in a long time.
On second thought, this is one of the greatest movies ever created.
Of course, the characters are unlikeable, there's enough plot holes to make you want to die, the dialogue sounds like it was written by a 13 year old liberal fail child who has never met an actual human, the action is unnecessarily over the top, and it's boring.
However, it is unintentionally the tale of American imperialism.
A group of working class people sign up to enter a warzone for money fully aware that in order to receive this money, they will have to kill and exploit an autonomous city filled with what they consider savages. But these "savages" clearly aren't so. Not to mention they are created by the us government.
They immediately betray one of their party because their only goal is money. This was the zombies biggest mistake, giving the imperialists safe passage. They did it because they are not inherently aggressive, even if they have every right to be. They should have killed the imperialists on sight.
Less than 10 minutes later, they start shooting up the residents of this city. In the chaos, the only one questioning the stand in for the imperialist state is intentionally killed by the one they are calling out. Because they began to suspect they were on a different mission other than the one stated.
And what are these "savages" doing? Literally sleeping. It was only after they were provoked by imperialists invading their home and murdering sleeping residents, did they fight back. And they were slaughtered for it. And the group is really enjoying themselves during the massacre.
Once they reach the casino, one of the characters rightly points out that they're caught in a time loop of killing and pillaging. "And once it ends, it all begins again." They kill and are killed to further the interests of the ruling class in a neverending loop.
Meanwhile Mr. Ruling Class Imperialist capture one of the leaders of this autonomous city and torture/cut her head off, ISIS style. All to make the ultimate WMD. Because I guess nukes aren't enough?
Continuing the torture, the rest of the group forces the zombies to walk across booby traps and shoot them if they don't comply. Sounds kind of familiar, bit on the nose really. But they aren't seen as people, they're seen as expendable, means to an end.
And what is the plan of the US government? Once they've extracted capital and materials from the residents of the city, they are literally going to nuke it. They are going to nuke a walled in, oppressed people because they have no more use for them. And they originally planned on doing it on July 4th. Nothing more patriotic/nationalist/fascist than doing a little genocide on a national holiday.
So the group moves out before the city gets nuked to shit, slaughtering innocent civilians who are defending themselves/avenging an assassination and exploitation of what's theirs. Outmatched in firepower, but picking off the imperialists out of sheer will. And the group is betrayed by the CIA imperialist guy along the way of course.
This is a top notch film really. Of course, not the intention of Snyder. If it was written a wee bit differently it would rival Starship Troopers and Avatar in terms of anti-imperialism. But, alas.
There's my analysis to keep sane during this shit show. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
It felt like I hit my head watching the opening to Zombieland and my subconscious just kept making more. By the end I expected my childhood cat to show up and say "you've been asleep for a month, please wake up" in the voice of my father.
Another funny music choice you would have missed: the last song is Zombie by The Cranberries
the least believable part of this movie was the very end when the black guy is all beat up and throws down a wad of cash for a private plane and they just give it to him instead of calling the police
I added 'groovy' to my lexicon ironically a while back and now it's in regular rotation. It's fun to say as flatly as possible.
The intro to this movie: hey this could be pretty decent
The next scene: I need you to risk your life for $100 million.
If I had anything else to do, I would have stopped after that lmao.
Edit: so I'm like halfway through. Is the significance of the money ever explained? Or is it just because rich people need their money? The only comment on why they're even taking this money is because saving people wasn't enough, they want to risk death for money.
Maybe this is actually a genius movie and the real disease is our addiction to money? Or more likely Snyder continuing being a shit director. No I will not watch the Snyder cut.
God I pray there's a Snyder cut to this trash he wrote and directed. it will be 4.5 hours long and the intro will be 90 minutes, with a 90 minute extended remix of Viva Las Vegas playing in the background and a 45 minute explainer about how neither the casino owner or his head of security have the combo to their own fucking vault.
or how nukes don't have radiation anymore.
or how that dude got out of the underground vault an hour-ish after it was buried under 30 stories of rubble.
All so he can get a bunch of cucked critics who couldn't identify a good movie if it was fed to them Clockwork Orange style can fawn over him and his polished turd of a movie.
I saw Justice League. There isn't anything you can do to make that movie even passable. This movie, just like Justice League, has no likeable characters. I want them all to die. The storyline and motivations are shit. And worst of all, his movies are just fucking mind numbingly boring. I would rather watch GoT s8.
Why are modern movies so bad.
Why are modern movies so bad.
the profit motive & falling rate of profit
The money was a MacGuffin. It was all about securing a zombie head for the military. The question, then, is why didn't the military just send in a highly trained black op team to secure said head instead of sending in a bunch of civilians under the guise of a heist?
Zach "Attack" Snyder is such a fucking clown. Tig's character intro made me laugh.
but of all the Zach Snyder plot holes in this 2.5 hour leaky sewer pipe, the part where the entire reason for Bautista's daughter to get involved... Geeta, the immigrant mother, just disappears after the wreck and nobody seems to notice or care.
Zach Snyder is seriously brain dead.
Oh my God, the number of Chekov's guns left unfired. I found the part about the rain waking up the dry zombies particularly egregious. I thought it was a fun, if obvious, bit of foreshadowing. It's the desert, so rain is rare, but it would create a lot of drama, plus the weather changing could signal a turn in the plot. 2 hours later and you realize it never comes up again. Just a throwaway line that could be left out of the movie entirely.
A lot of movies make no sense, but this is one where there is no amount of suspension of disbelief that will tie it together.
No because expanded universes mean filmography is just showing a checkovs armory for the entire movie.
I like how Dillahunt was all "I'm gonna go up to the roof and fly outta here like a boss genius" but then inexplicably doesn't do that at all, exits at the street level where all the zombies are rushing by and gets owned by the tiger.
the continuity goofs in this flick were seriously off the charts. I have literally never seen anything this lazy outside of like weird shitty indie crap where the editor was paid in weed and hoagies.
Poor Miz tore his ACL for a shitty 10 min ad pretending to be a match for an even worse movie. :deeper-sadness:
S/o to @marxisthayaca for talking about how the Donald Trump president who talked about how patriotic nuking Vegas on the 4th would be.
Zack Snyder, who absolutely has the mind of a 12 year old suburban teen from the early 2000s
I wonder why a soulless fascist would soyface at the baby killing eugenics of Spartans?
"This helicopter that's been sitting on a roof exposed to the elements for years with no maintenance whatsoever will be your escape from this nuclear blast zone."
Profoundly fucking stupid movie. As you said, if the op was just about securing an Alpha head for the military then why the fuck didn't the military just send in a black op team to secure said head? Why send in like 10 civilians to do it under the guise of a heist? Also the world building is ridiculous. The idea of a zombie kingdom with sentient leadership is actually kind of interesting, but since they all get nuked off the face of the earth what's even the point.
