53,917 votes left to count if my math is right, much larger gap between Fujimori and Castillo. PERU LIBRE!
OAS has determined that there was widespread voter fraud :very-intelligent:
Leftist Winning Election = Attack On Democracy
Time for the anti-corruption investigations to begin.
Juan Guaido wasn't even ON the ballot. Massive fraud.
Love how Castillo's logo is the thing he is going to do, while Fujimori's logo is just her first initial lmao
i remember going through rural peru many years ago, and walls of buildings everywhere were plastered with candidates logos on bright, solid background colours - and infrastructure like bridges and stuff were all painted in the colour of whichever president/party built it so that people would know that they had funded it. i think the reasoning was that literacy was pretty low but political engagement was actually pretty high. in that situation, a pencil logo sends a pretty clear message to rural voters, whereas a circle with a k is pretty dismissive
High Schools in my neighborhood were named "Clements", "Dulles", and "Bush".
The big intercontinental airport was also "Bush". We've got a bunch of local public buildings named after notable figures.
Then there's the hold-over shit from the 1920s, when segregation went into high gear.
Like... yeah, we already do this. But a lot of what we advertise is just a parade of assholes.
whereas a circle with a k is pretty dismissive
Totally weird and off trend, your logo being your initial is some almost-monarchist shit
I mean, our boy was very lucky they picked such dogshit candidate to compete with him. Her campaign and, basically all her, is horrible
She had the force of the American intelligence department, the existing ruling party, and almost all industrial capitalists in Peru behind her. It's amazing she didn't win.
She had the dead weight of a reviled family line and a truly shit-tier Pete Buttigieg level campaign strategy.
The Americans could have backed someone who sucked less. Or just someone they could lean on more easily. Run some rich schlub like Sebastián Piñera of Chile who can just hold the bag for four years, while business continues to suck the life out of the state. But they had to back the woman who triggered the :maybe-later-kiddo: instincts in the native population.
I mean, time will tell on Castillo. He could end up as another feckless ALMO style loser. But his opposition was a clear signal from the Peruvian Right that they care more about fascist dynasties than running palatable candidates.
Yeah it's literally like, the liberal caricature of a Trump campaign logo, just a T
I'm happy for the Peruvian lower classes and campesinos because they indeed wanted this man in power, however we must remember that he's a conservative on social matters, he's opposed to abortion, gay marriage, marihuana consumption and so on. Of course, he comes from a conservative background and Perú (especially the rural regions, from which he comes from) are INSANELY conservative AND religious. Indeed he's a thousand, million, gazillion times better than the far right ghoul Keiko, eternal loser, but facts are facts and I do hope Castillo would bring material benefits to the poor so that the fight against discrimination can begin, because we understand that the worse the material conditions are for the people, the easier it is for conservatives to flourish.
Never forget that social liberation is not distinct from economy liberation. He may have some reactionary views, but material improvement for the poor doesn't only go to the cishets. Basic economic stability takes a massive load off of oppressed people. The biggest issues oppressed communities face are frequently economically grounded: being able to get the healthcare they need, mental and otherwise, surviving community marginalization and the jobs (and therefore material well-being) that entails, homelessness...
Also never forget the shallowness of liberals "embracing" social progressivism, as they frequently only want to wrap themselves in a rainbow flag, not actually address the oppression and inequities faced by LGBTQ+ people.
Finally, we haven't seen what he'll actually do policy-wise regarding his reactionary views. He didn't make them central to his campaign. He could easily deliver just as much as your typical liberal, even with a somewhat pessimistic expectation.
Basically, it sucks that he has those views but we should do a gut check on material outcomes and organization.
Social attitudes improve as material conditions improve, generally. Get people fed, educated, healthy first and then they'll have a lot more time and energy to reexamine their country's social problems
none of this is a part of his political program. he has stated numerous times that he intends for a democratic constituent assembly to work out those social issues and his personal opinions are separate from his government plan
I'm no expert on Peruvian politics but I wouldn't be surprised if Fujimori was not much better materially.
One can hope that a more equitably distribution of the nation's wealth can create conditions where people will stop clinging to conservative social values as a way to deal with material insecurity. If religion is the opiate of the masses then maybe a less painful existence will make them less inclined to take it.
There’s a gap of 96,108 votes between Castillo and Fujimori. He did it. Pencil man won
You're checking the wrong tab that only count local votes, switch to Todos to include foreign votes. Still about 100k foreign vote left so in total around 150k, but Pedro lead by 110k making it's super hard for him to lose but not impossible
we need an investigation to check for burger fibers and mayonnaise stains on those ballots
Yes, and this screenshot made me almost shit my pants because if he won by more than 1% I was gonna make a lot of money on PredictIt, but with the foreign vote included he's not gonna hit that margin. I'm holding onto my bet anyway in case Keiko demands a recount and the recount increases his margin lol.
You're only looking at domestic votes here, you have to change it to "Todos" to count in foreign votes as well.
Again my fault lol, I was spreading the wrong link earlier.
https://www.resultadossep.eleccionesgenerales2021.pe/SEP2021/EleccionesPresidenciales/RePres/T
But yeah his gap keeps widening so hatboi is definitely gonna get it.
Not trying to start a struggle session here, but is it true Castillo is homophobic?
Of course, if he is, still critical support as he was going against a literal fascist. It's also important to look at the context and this is a revival of the left in a country ruled by neoliberalism for a while now.
Just wondering how much of it is true and how much of it is overblown by the media.
He has said he opposes gay marriage and abortion. Not good but considering where Peru's at, a Bolivian style government would help them much more than those two important things. Peru is very conservative and personally I think when people are less poor they can be more open to social growth, but that is just speculation.
That's where I'm at and this is an objectively good result.
Just mostly wondered if this was media distortion.
Thanks.
Yeah he is.
Thing is, as material conditions improve, the possibility of a society changing its social attitudes does as well.
Of course there are a lot of other factors involved, but nobody is going to reexamine their social beliefs if they're not fed, educated, healthy, etc.
It's extremely unlikely that the fascist candidate is going to be any better on LGBTQ issues, and they are definitely going to be worse on things like labor and indigenous issues.
So yeah, critical support.
Lol, the election was between two social conservatives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujimorism#Ideology
Fujimorism is characterized by its social conservatism. In March 2017, for example, Popular Force blocked an investigation into alleged sexual abuse within the Catholic church using the justification that it was only intended as an attack on religion.
Peru has a long way to go, Castillo is huge progress. Very easy for Global North critics to ignore the reality that social progress is a privilege.
It's true but it is very curious how the media is only now acting concerned about it as if this hasn't been the norm in Peru and other similar countries. Wow gee no shit the candidate who won the presidency in a socially conservative country is socially conservative. Never heard of a poor country being socially conservative ever again! Let's just ignore that the other candidate is even more socially conservative!
They know it works because liberals in rich countries think that just because gay marriage or whatever is the number one issue where they're from, it is the number one issue everywhere, and that they're not gonna bother to find out what the situation is in a foreign country.
So do they need a PL parliament now? Assuming no coup and the election goes smoothly
It will be difficult but the more socially progressive Marxists and the centre left have pledged supply. It's conceivable that the agrarian and left factions of parties like Popular Action may peel away also.
I think it represents simultaneously that Castillo was a school teacher and led teacher's strikes but also that he intends to rewrite Peru's constitution (by constituent assembly).
