:jesse-wtf: WHAT THE FUCK IS AN AGORIST IMGONNA KILL YOU
Half of these have had more followers each worldwide than the rest of leftist tendencies combined . I doubt they are weird esoteric stuff
They aren’t, they just appear that way to the uninitiated
If you have to say this, that means that they're weird and esoteric. We're not talking about well-read theory nerds or even well-memed lefty shitposters, we're talking about normie libs who think anything left of :top-cop: is spooky stalinism who will give all the jobs to immigrants and gulag all the Real Americans. That's the frame of reference for "weird and esoteric".
These absolutely are weird esoteric things that will never manifest anything outside of Twitter and reddit arguments. Every time they try organizing in reality they end up working at a libertarian think-tanks funded by oil tycoons or they just get swept up by fascists.
In my world we are a big tent where we all fight each other as much as we always do, but from the outside we are just communists and a united front against all the shit that neolibs think is cool and treading over ancap rights as we liberate their child farms
People like these are why I will only ever identify myself as a communist and only if someone asks me directly.
There's commies, there's libs, and there's fash. Anything else is needless whimsy.
Almost as if there are only two classes, bourgeoisie and proletariat and when shit hits the fan you're either on one side or another.
YOURE NOT REAL NONE OF YOU ARE REAL FUCK OFF PLEASE GET OUT OF MY HEAD
This is what happens when ideology is reduced to a list of policy ideas and personality traits. The political compass has done nothing good, ever.
I find that "mutualist" and especially "christian mutualist" usually ends up being a crypto-fascist.
Libertarians are trying to rebrand. Mutualism, Volunteerism, De-centralism... its the John Birch Society all over again. Just another excuse to be a bigot and call it Freedom.
Mutualists are just libertarians who think a free market would be good for workers.
agorism and voluntaryism are spicy ancaps that got frustrated that anarcho capitalism has completely idiotic philosophical underpinnings and tried to craft new ones. they're more reachable than most libs or normal chuds (because they've dug the deepest into the contradictions of their own ideology), but if you're an M-L you're just gonna yell at them.
that one's new to me, but having just listened to that first ep of Hell of Presidents, I'd guess that it has to do with that "uniquely American concept of liberty based on unlimited unclaimed land"
Space doesn't have anything actually, anything many-centuries-in-the-future-habitable is too far to reach.
Mars? unless that shit have a shitton of water near the dirt surface, or it's made from diamonds, it's just another useless rock actively trying to kill you at every second.
"Oh but robots and stuff, so we don't need slaves" yeah, robots and stuff, sure, not that we could use them down here to fix this shit of a planet, no, no, let's better go live in a can many km away from the biosphere, sure that's sustainable and acchievable.
No matter what we do to fuck up Earth, fixing that will be orders of magnitude easier than making Mars inhabitable, let alone economically viable.
Isn't terraforming like batshit insane too? Like we aren't even close to having the technology to do it in any sustainable manner
Obviously climate change has doomed Earth so our only choice it to put all our efforts into making places with no life or atmosphere barely livable
Oh, so their ideal socioeconomic system needs unlimited new lands acquired via genocide? Very sustainable system yes.
https://polcompball.fandom.com/wiki/Anarcho-Frontierism according to this that's what it is
Space Cowboy
Yeehaw Anarchism
Pro-Gun Mutualist Cultural Postlibertarian with Frontier Characteristics
I'm nothing cuz I don't know shit about dick, but people is fucking dying from capitalism at ever increasing rates, so I'll fucking yell at them without a doubt
I don't think anyone who parades around their weird fucking esoteric made up ideologies like that can really be reached or that it even matters. Just leave them do their weird twitter thing, there's about 5 of them and that's what they like about it.
Aesthetic based identitarianism masquerading as radicalism, all that effort and obsessive re-branding just to hide the fact you're still a pro-capitalist who wants the goodies imperialism provides
Ironically the fact these dipshits have to obfuscate so hard, shows our critiques actually are having an impact on the wider culture, they lost the minute they started arguing on our terms :cool-dad:
Guys do words even mean anything anymore? I can't fucking tell
"Who keeps on coming to my house and yelling 'read theory' at 3 in the morning? Show yourself, coward. I will not read theory and you can't make me."
Oh fuk, I've been telling people that I'm an agorist because I like open spaces like public squares and cloisters :oh-shit:
I always like these weird awkward attempts to synthesize Greek words. I'm guessing it's supposed to derive from agora, but there is already a word that derives from that in a similar sense in Greek that doesn't sound weird and awkward. It's agorastis (I guess it would be agorast in English) and it just means buyer lol.
I looked it up on wiki and this is what it says about its founder:
Samuel Edward Konkin III (8 July 1947 – 23 February 2004) also known as SEK3
I already hate him based on that alone.
How about this. When we have communism you can carve out your own special club and flavor. Until then, don't worry about it. You can't expand on communism and integrate other things until we have it in the first place. You're not an RPG character. World-building isn't history. Stop it.
